Is it considered acceptable to ask a tax expert for legal citation for what they say? Should I be suspicious?
So I've been dealing with some complex tax issues this year and have talked to a couple different tax "experts" - one was a CPA at a mid-sized firm and another was a tax preparer at one of those national chains. When they gave me advice about some deductions I was considering, I asked them to point me to the actual tax code or IRS publications that supported what they were saying. Both seemed kind of annoyed by this. One just vaguely referenced "IRS regulations" without specifics and the other said something like "this is standard practice based on my 12 years of experience." I get really suspicious when professionals can't back up their claims with actual legal citations. Am I being unreasonable here? Is it normal to expect tax professionals to be able to cite the relevant sections of tax code or IRS publications when giving advice? Or am I being "that client" that everyone hates?
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NeonNebula
Not unreasonable at all. A qualified tax professional should be able to provide citations when asked, especially for complex situations. While they might not have every code section memorized, they should at least know where to look or be willing to find the relevant information for you. When I work with clients who ask for citations, I typically reference the specific IRS publication, Revenue Ruling, or Internal Revenue Code section. For example, if discussing home office deductions, I'd point to IRC Section 280A and Publication 587. These references protect both you and the tax professional by ensuring advice is grounded in actual tax law rather than just "what I usually do." That said, some practitioners might get defensive because they're used to clients simply accepting their expertise without question. But asking for citations is your right as a taxpayer - you're the one signing the return and potentially facing penalties.
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Isabella Costa
•Do you think there's ever a situation where a tax professional legitimately wouldn't be able to provide a citation? Like maybe for something that's more of a "gray area" in tax law? I'm just wondering if I'm being too rigid in my expectations.
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NeonNebula
•There are certainly gray areas in tax law where multiple interpretations exist. In those cases, a good professional should explain that it's a gray area and discuss the various positions that could be taken, ideally with references to court cases or rulings that support different viewpoints. They might also mention the "substantial authority" standard for taking positions on a tax return. For common, straightforward tax situations, citations should be readily available. But for complex or unusual scenarios, the professional might need time to research. What's concerning is when someone simply refuses to provide any supporting documentation or gets defensive about being asked. That's usually a red flag.
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Ravi Malhotra
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Freya Christensen
•How does that actually work? Do you just upload your tax documents and it automatically figures out what sections of tax code apply? Does it handle complicated situations like S-corp issues or just basic personal tax stuff?
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Omar Farouk
•Sounds interesting but I'm skeptical. I've tried other "AI tax tools" before and they just spat out generic advice that wasn't really tailored to my situation. How specific does it actually get with the citations? Like does it just say "see Publication 525" or does it actually explain the reasoning?
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Ravi Malhotra
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Omar Farouk
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Chloe Davis
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AstroAlpha
•Wait how does this actually work? I thought the IRS phone lines were completely jammed and nobody could get through. Is this some kind of priority line service or something?
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Diego Chavez
•This sounds like BS honestly. There's no way to "skip the line" with the IRS. My cousin works for the government and says those phone lines are jammed because they're understaffed, period. No magic service is going to change that. Sounds like you're selling something.
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Chloe Davis
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Diego Chavez
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Anastasia Smirnova
I'm a retired accountant, and I think it's absolutely reasonable to ask for citations, but there's an important distinction to make: tax professionals should know THE PRINCIPLES behind tax law and where to find citations, rather than having every code section memorized. For example, when a client asks me about the home office deduction, I should know the general rules (exclusive use, regular use, principal place of business) and be able to say "that's covered in Publication 587 and Section 280A of the tax code." I might need to look up the exact citation, but I should know where to point you. What raises red flags is when someone gets defensive or dismissive when asked for support. Good tax pros welcome these questions because they want you to understand and be comfortable with their advice.
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Isabella Costa
•That makes sense! So it's not that they need to have the exact code section memorized, but they should be able to tell you generally where to find the information or be willing to look it up for you. Is there a polite way to phrase this kind of request without seeming like I'm challenging their expertise?
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Anastasia Smirnova
•I've found the best approach is to frame it as wanting to understand for your own knowledge rather than challenging their expertise. Try saying something like: "This is interesting - could you point me to the IRS publication or tax code section where I could read more about this? I'd like to understand the details better." Most professionals respond well to curiosity. If they still get defensive, that's actually valuable information about whether this is someone you want to work with. A good tax professional should appreciate a client who wants to be informed rather than just taking everything at face value.
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Sean O'Brien
Adding to this discussion - I've learned that there's a huge difference between tax preparers and actual tax attorneys when it comes to citations. Tax attorneys literally live and breathe by citations since they often have to defend positions in court or to the IRS. My regular tax preparer at H&R Block couldn't cite anything specific when I asked about some S-corp questions, but when I went to a tax attorney for a second opinion, she immediately pulled up multiple court cases and revenue rulings that addressed my situation. She even emailed me a summary with all the citations afterward.
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Zara Shah
•That's because there's a HUGE difference in qualifications. H&R Block "professionals" often just take a 10-week course. Tax attorneys have law degrees plus specialized tax training. You get what you pay for.
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Luca Bianchi
•Don't discount CPAs though - many are extremely knowledgeable about tax laws and citations, especially those who specialize in taxation. The real dividing line isn't the credential but whether they focus on compliance (just filling out forms) versus actual tax planning and strategy.
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