Indirect Rollover of Annuity Gone Wrong - Tax Nightmare After Insurance Rep Advice

Unfortunately, what happened here involves a key distinction in how rollovers work. A 1035 exchange is a direct transfer between insurance companies that's tax-free. What you ended up doing was an indirect rollover, which has specific IRS rules attached to it. When you take possession of the funds personally (when the check was written to you), even if you immediately send it to another qualified account, you have to report it correctly. For non-qualified annuities, you typically need to do a direct 1035 exchange to avoid tax consequences. Since you received the check personally and then made a new purchase, the IRS views this as a distribution followed by a new investment. Your agent was incorrect if they told you Athena couldn't do a 1035 exchange - virtually all insurance companies can. And the 10% withholding makes me think there was confusion about whether this was a qualified or non-qualified annuity. Non-qualified money has already been taxed, but any earnings would be taxable upon withdrawal. At this point, you'll need to determine if any part of the distribution was actually taxable (generally the growth portion would be) and potentially file an amended return explaining the situation.

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The key issue here is that for non-qualified annuities, you MUST do a direct 1035 exchange to avoid tax consequences. When you took possession of the money personally (check made out to you), that made it a taxable event for any earnings in the contract. What's really unfortunate is that your agent was completely wrong about Athena not being able to do a 1035 exchange. Every insurance company can do them - it's standard industry practice. You should consider filing a complaint with your state insurance commissioner about this bad advice.

This situation is exactly why I refuse to use insurance agents for financial advice. They're salespeople, not tax experts. Even if they weren't making commission on this particular transaction, they likely don't understand the tax implications of what they're suggesting.

I'm really sorry you're going through this nightmare - it's incredibly frustrating when professional advice goes wrong and leaves you holding the bag with the IRS. From what you've described, the core issue is that your agent incorrectly handled what should have been a direct 1035 exchange. When the check was made out to you personally, it created a taxable event for any earnings in your non-qualified annuity, even though you immediately transferred the funds to another annuity. A few important points to consider: First, you should only owe taxes on the earnings portion of your annuity, not the entire distribution amount. Your original investment (basis) in a non-qualified annuity has already been taxed. Second, you may be able to request penalty abatement based on reasonable reliance on professional advice - document everything about what your agent told you and when. I'd strongly recommend getting professional help to sort this out properly. The tax rules around annuity distributions are complex, and you want to make sure you're not paying more than you actually owe. Also consider filing a complaint with your state insurance commissioner about the bad advice - your agent was completely wrong about Athena not being able to process a 1035 exchange. Don't panic - while this is a serious situation, there are ways to work through it and potentially minimize the damage.