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Olivia Kay

IRS Whistleblower Case for Unreported Payroll Taxes?

So I've been working at this company for about 6 months and noticed something sketchy going on with how they pay people. My employer has at least 5-6 employees who are getting paid completely cash under the table - no taxes withheld, no paystubs, nothing. And we're not talking about minimum wage either - some of these people are making like $1,200+ per week. The weird part is that they seem really organized about it. When I casually mentioned something about taxes to my manager, he kind of smirked and said "the legal department handles those details." That made me think this isn't just some oversight but intentional. I'm wondering if this would qualify for an IRS whistleblower case? From what I understand, they're definitely not paying payroll taxes on these employees. No Social Security, Medicare, unemployment insurance - nothing. Some of these employees have been getting paid this way for years from what I've heard. Would reporting something like this even be worth it? And how much evidence would I need to make a case? I don't have access to their books or anything, just what I've observed and conversations I've overheard.

Joshua Hellan

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This absolutely sounds like a potential whistleblower case. When employers pay "under the table," they're typically evading federal employment taxes including Social Security, Medicare (FICA), and federal unemployment taxes. They're also likely not reporting these wages to the IRS. The IRS Whistleblower Program pays awards to people who provide specific and credible information about tax violations. Since you're mentioning multiple high-wage employees ($1000+ weekly), the tax liability is likely substantial. The IRS is particularly interested in cases where the total tax, penalties, interest, and additions exceed $2 million, which this could easily reach given multiple employees over time. To make a report, you would submit Form 211 (Application for Award for Original Information) to the IRS. You don't necessarily need documentary evidence - your firsthand observations can be sufficient to trigger an investigation, though any documentation would strengthen your case.

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Jibriel Kohn

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Would they need to know who reported them? Im curious about the whole anonymity thing because I'm in a similar situation and dont want to get fired...

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Joshua Hellan

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The IRS makes efforts to protect whistleblower identities, but complete anonymity cannot be guaranteed in all circumstances. The IRS will not voluntarily disclose your identity, but if the case leads to court proceedings, your identity might eventually become known through the legal process. Whistleblowers are protected under various anti-retaliation laws, including the Taxpayer First Act, which prohibits employers from retaliating against employees who report tax violations. If you experience retaliation, you could have legal recourse, including potential reinstatement, back pay, and damages.

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Did you have to provide actual documentation? I don't have access to payroll systems or anything, just observations of cash payments and some things managers have said openly.

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James Johnson

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How long did the whole process take? I heard these whistleblower cases can drag on for years before there's any resolution or reward.

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Something important to consider: the whistleblower process isn't just about getting a reward. There can be serious consequences for the company AND potentially the employees being paid under the table. The employees might suddenly find themselves owing back taxes they weren't prepared for. The company could face huge penalties, potential criminal charges, and might even go under depending on the size of the liability. I'm not saying don't report it - tax evasion is wrong - but be aware of the ripple effects.

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Olivia Kay

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Thanks for bringing this up - I've been thinking about this angle too. If I report and the company gets hit with massive penalties, couldn't that put everyone out of work? And the people getting paid cash probably don't have savings for sudden tax bills. I'm wondering if there's any way to just get the company to start doing things properly without destroying everything.

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Unfortunately, once you submit a whistleblower claim, you don't have control over how the IRS proceeds. They're likely to conduct a full investigation, and if they find widespread intentional tax evasion, the consequences can be severe. If your goal is to correct the situation rather than pursue a reward, you might consider first raising the issue internally - perhaps anonymously - with higher management or the company's legal department. Some companies have ethics hotlines specifically for this purpose. However, be aware that depending on the company culture, this approach might put your job at risk.

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Make sure you understand the difference between employees and independent contractors too. If these people are legitimate independent contractors (responsible for their own work methods, use their own equipment, work for multiple clients, etc.), then the tax reporting requirements are different. The company would still need to issue 1099s for payments over $600, but wouldn't be responsible for payroll taxes. That said, from what you described - regular weekly payments that sound like wages - this sounds like employee misclassification, which is definitely something the IRS cares about.

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Charlie Yang

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This is a really good point. I've seen so many small businesses try to classify everyone as "independent contractors" when they're clearly employees by IRS standards. They have scheduled hours, use company equipment, are told exactly how to do the work, etc. Classic employee misclassification.

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Yara Campbell

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Just want to add something about documentation that might help - even without access to official payroll records, there are ways to strengthen your case. Keep a detailed log of what you observe: dates, approximate amounts you see being handed out, which employees receive cash payments, any overheard conversations about the arrangement, etc. Also, if you have any text messages, emails, or written communications that reference the cash payment system, those could be valuable. Even seemingly innocent messages like "pick up your pay from John's office" or references to "cash bonuses" can help establish a pattern. The IRS investigators are experienced with these situations and know how to build cases from circumstantial evidence. Your firsthand observations as an employee carry significant weight, especially if you can provide specific details about the scope and duration of the scheme. One more thing - document everything you can about the working conditions of these cash-paid workers. If they're clearly employees (set schedules, using company equipment, following company procedures) rather than independent contractors, that strengthens the misclassification aspect of the case.

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