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How to report Form 1099-LTC (Long-Term Care Benefits) with per diem box checked on tax return?

I'm totally confused about how to handle a Form 1099-LTC on my mom's tax return. She received long-term care benefits last year, and the insurance company sent her a 1099-LTC with Box 3 (per diem) checked. The form shows $180K in Box 1 for benefits paid, but her actual medical expenses were only about $126K. Do we need to report the difference ($54K) as taxable income? I've looked through TurboTax and read some IRS publications but still can't figure out the right way to handle this. Has anyone dealt with this specific situation before? The form is pretty straightforward but the tax implications aren't clear to me at all. I want to make sure we're reporting this correctly and not overpaying taxes if this amount isn't actually taxable. Any help would be really appreciated!

Yes, this can definitely be confusing! With a 1099-LTC where Box 3 (per diem) is checked, you need to compare the per diem payments to what's called the "excludable limit" to determine taxability. First, calculate the excludable amount: multiply the daily rate set by the IRS ($390 for 2024) by the number of days your mom qualified for care. Then compare this to her actual costs ($126K). The excludable amount is the GREATER of either her actual costs or the calculated per diem limit. If the benefits received ($180K) exceed this excludable amount, then yes, the difference would be taxable. You'll need to complete Form 8853 (Archer MSAs and Long-Term Care Insurance Contracts) to calculate the taxable portion and include it with her return. The taxable amount will carry over to Schedule 1. Hope this helps clarify things for you!

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Thanks for explaining! Quick question - for the daily rate limit, do I need to prorate if she wasn't receiving care for the full year? She started receiving care in March.

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You only multiply the daily rate by the number of days she qualified for and received care. So if she began in March, you would count from March through the end of the year (or whenever the care ended if it wasn't year-end). For example, if she started March 1st and received care for the rest of the year, that would be approximately 306 days. You'd multiply 306 × $390 = $119,340 for the per diem limit. Then compare that to her actual costs of $126K, and use the higher amount ($126K) as the excludable amount. Then subtract that from the $180K benefit to determine the taxable portion.

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Just to add another perspective - my wife and I dealt with this last year for her aunt. We found that if your qualified long-term care expenses exceed the total benefits paid (the amount in Box 1), then none of the benefits are taxable, regardless of the per diem checkbox. In your case, since the benefits ($180K) exceed the expenses ($126K), you do need to calculate the taxable portion, but don't forget to include ALL qualified long-term care expenses, not just the obvious ones. Things like modifications to the home for accessibility, certain transportation costs to medical facilities, and some prescription costs can sometimes be included.

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Thank you for mentioning this! We actually did make some modifications to mom's bathroom (grab bars, shower seat, etc.) and had some transportation costs for medical appointments. I wasn't counting those in the $126K figure. Would you happen to know if there's a comprehensive list somewhere of what counts as qualified LTC expenses?

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Yes, IRS Publication 502 has a pretty comprehensive list of medical expenses that qualify. For long-term care specifically, you want to look at the sections on home modifications and long-term care services. Generally, home modifications can count if they're medically necessary and don't add to the property value (like grab bars, ramps, widening doorways). Transportation costs to and from medical appointments definitely count. Also, don't forget about any supplemental care that wasn't covered by insurance but was prescribed by a doctor, like physical therapy sessions or certain medical equipment. Keep good records of all these expenses with receipts. Adding these additional expenses might significantly reduce the taxable portion of the LTC benefits.

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My accountant told me that with the per diem LTC policies, you should look at IRS Form 8853 instructions first. There's also a calculation worksheet in there that helps figure out the taxable amount. Don't forget that the per diem limit is adjusted each year for inflation! The 2023 limit was $370, 2024 is $390, and 2025 will be different again. Make sure you're using the correct year's limit when you do your math.

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Are you sure about those numbers? I thought the 2024 limit was $420 per day, not $390. At least that's what my tax guy told me last month when we were preparing for next year.

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