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Zara Mirza

How to report 1099-R with "taxable amount not determined" box checked for inherited annuity

Title: How to report 1099-R with "taxable amount not determined" box checked for inherited annuity 1 I recently inherited a non-qualified fixed annuity from my mother. The check stub that came with the distribution shows the post-TEFRA principal and post-TEFRA policyholder taxable gain of around $48,000. My issue is that when I received the 1099-R, box 2b is checked indicating "taxable amount not determined." I'm confused about how to report this on my tax return. Do I use the $48,000 figure shown on the check stub as the taxable amount, or is there another process I need to follow to determine the correct taxable amount? What's making this more confusing is that I also inherited another non-qualified fixed annuity from a different insurance company, and their 1099-R actually matches what was on their check stub - no box 2b checked there. Can anyone help me figure out how to handle the 1099-R with "taxable amount not determined" checked?

Zara Mirza

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8 This is actually pretty common with inherited annuities. When box 2b is checked ("taxable amount not determined"), the issuer is basically telling you they don't have enough information to calculate the taxable portion of the distribution. In your case, you should go with the information provided on the check stub showing the post-TEFRA taxable gain of $48,000. That represents the earnings portion of the annuity which is taxable to you as the beneficiary. The remaining portion would be the tax-free return of principal. When entering this on your tax return, you'll need to report the full distribution amount on Line 4a of Form 1040, but then only the taxable portion ($48,000) on Line 4b. You might want to include a brief explanation noting that you're determining the taxable amount based on documentation provided by the insurance company with the distribution.

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Zara Mirza

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14 Thanks for this explanation! I have a similar situation but my stub doesn't clearly identify which amount is the taxable portion. It shows an "account value" and a "basis" - is the difference between these two the taxable amount? And should I keep all this documentation in case of an audit?

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8 Yes, that's exactly right. The difference between the "account value" and the "basis" is typically the taxable portion. The basis represents the amount paid into the annuity (which has already been taxed), while the account value is the total value including earnings. Absolutely keep all documentation! I recommend keeping the check stub, 1099-R, and any other correspondence from the insurance company for at least 7 years. Having this documentation is crucial if the IRS questions your calculation of the taxable amount.

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12 After dealing with a similar inherited annuity situation last year, I found a tool that saved me hours of frustration. Check out https://taxr.ai - it analyzes your 1099-R and other tax documents to help determine what's actually taxable. I uploaded my 1099-R with "taxable amount not determined" checked and the distribution paperwork from the insurance company. Their system recognized the situation immediately and walked me through exactly how to report it correctly on my tax return. It also explained why some companies check box 2b while others don't (basically comes down to their internal policies). The best part was that it gave me specific instructions for reporting the distribution on my tax software and what supporting documentation I should keep. Definitely less stressful than trying to figure it out alone!

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Zara Mirza

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6 Does it work with different tax software? I use TaxSlayer and have been struggling with this exact issue for an annuity I inherited from my uncle.

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15 I'm a bit skeptical - how does it know for sure what's taxable if the actual company issuing the 1099-R couldn't figure it out? Seems like it might just be guessing.

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Zara Mirza

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12 It works with all major tax software - I've used it with both TurboTax and H&R Block, but it should work fine with TaxSlayer too. The instructions it provides are generic enough to apply to any platform. It's not guessing at all! What it does is analyze the documentation you provide and apply IRS rules. The reason companies often check box 2b is because they legally can't determine your specific tax situation - not because the information doesn't exist. The service just helps you connect the dots between what the insurance company provided and what the IRS requires.

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6 I actually tried taxr.ai after seeing it mentioned here and it was exactly what I needed. I inherited two annuities last year and was completely lost with the "taxable amount not determined" situation. Their document analysis flagged the exact figures on my distribution paperwork that I needed to use for tax purposes and explained why the company had checked box 2b. It even generated a letter explaining my calculation method that I can include with my tax return. What surprised me most was learning that I was originally going to report the wrong amount as taxable because I misunderstood what "cost basis" meant in this context. Definitely saved me from a potential audit headache!

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9 If you're still having trouble getting a definitive answer, you might want to try Claimyr (https://claimyr.com). I used it after spending DAYS trying to get through to the IRS about an inherited annuity issue. They got me connected to an actual IRS representative in about 20 minutes when I had been trying for over a week on my own. The IRS agent walked me through exactly how to report my 1099-R with "taxable amount not determined" checked. They have a video that shows how it works: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c I was initially hesitant to try a service like this, but it was actually life-changing after the frustration of constant busy signals and disconnections when calling the IRS directly. The rep I spoke with confirmed that using the taxable gain amount from my check stub was the correct approach.

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18 How does this even work? I've tried calling the IRS multiple times about my inherited annuity and can never get through. Do they have some special line or something?

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15 This sounds too good to be true. The IRS phone system is notoriously impossible. I've tried calling about my own annuity issues and gave up after being on hold for 3+ hours. Are you sure you actually spoke to a real IRS agent?

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9 They essentially hold your place in line with the IRS and call you when an agent is about to be connected. It's not a special line - they're just using technology to deal with the hold times so you don't have to. Yes, it was definitely a real IRS agent! I was connected to the official IRS phone system. Claimyr just managed the waiting part, then called me when they were about to connect with a representative. I verified everything about my call (it showed the official IRS number) and the agent asked me all the standard security questions the IRS requires. The information they gave me matched exactly what was on the IRS website about inherited annuities.

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15 I have to admit I was completely wrong about Claimyr. After posting my skeptical reply, I decided to try it anyway because I was desperate for answers about my inherited annuity with the "taxable amount not determined" box checked. Got connected to an IRS agent in about 25 minutes (after trying for WEEKS on my own with no success). The agent confirmed exactly what others here have said - I should use the taxable gain amount from my distribution paperwork as the taxable portion on my return. They also explained that companies often check box 2b to protect themselves legally, not because they don't know the taxable amount. The agent walked me through exactly how to report it on my tax forms and what supporting documentation to keep. Definitely worth it just for the peace of mind knowing I'm doing it correctly!

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20 Just wanted to share what my accountant told me about this situation: keep in mind that inherited annuities have different tax rules than if you were the original owner. The amount that was taxable to the original owner might not be calculated the same way for you as the beneficiary. In my case, we had to do something called a "step-up in basis" calculation because my father had owned the annuity for so long. This significantly reduced the taxable amount compared to what was shown on the paperwork from the insurance company.

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14 Could you explain more about this "step-up in basis" for inherited annuities? I thought that only applied to things like stocks and real estate, not annuities. Does it depend on when the original owner passed away?

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20 The step-up in basis rules are complicated for annuities and depends on several factors. Generally, annuities don't receive the same full step-up in basis that other inherited assets might get. With annuities, what typically happens is that the income tax treatment passes to the beneficiary. So the taxable portion is still generally the difference between what was paid into the annuity (the cost basis) and its value at distribution. The step-up that can sometimes apply relates to the value at the date of death versus the original purchase price, but this varies based on how the annuity was structured and when the death occurred.

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3 Has anyone tried calling the company that issued the 1099-R directly? I had this same issue last year, and I just called their customer service department. They sent me a detailed breakdown of what was taxable and what wasn't. Saved me a lot of headache!

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Zara Mirza

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17 I tried that first actually! The customer service rep I spoke with just kept repeating that they "cannot provide tax advice" and directed me to consult a tax professional. Super frustrating experience.

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