How to determine RMD on deceased parent's Govt/OPM annuity payments for tax filing?
My dad passed away last September and I'm now stuck trying to figure out his taxes. He was getting both an annuity and a survivor's annuity from the Federal Government/OPM. No other retirement accounts or investments to deal with. The tax person I'm using keeps asking about required minimum distributions for these accounts. Looking at his 1099Rs, they both have "unknown" listed in box 2a. I'm pretty sure he retired sometime after November 1996 (like 98% certain). Does anyone know if these Government/OPM annuities even have RMDs? And if they do, how the heck do I figure out what amount I should be reporting? I've been going in circles on the IRS and OPM websites for days and still can't find a clear answer. Thanks in advance for any help! This whole executor thing is way more complicated than I expected...
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Paolo Longo
Government annuities like those from OPM typically don't have Required Minimum Distributions (RMDs) in the traditional sense that IRAs or 401(k)s do. These are defined benefit pensions that pay out based on a formula, not account balances that need to be drawn down. The "unknown" in box 2a of the 1099-R usually indicates that the payer doesn't know what portion of the distribution is taxable. This is common with government pensions where the recipient may have made after-tax contributions during their working years. You'll need to determine if your father had contributed to his pension with after-tax dollars. If he did, a portion of each payment would be a tax-free return of those contributions. The taxable amount depends on whether he chose the Simplified Method or the General Rule when he started receiving benefits.
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Keisha Taylor
•Thank you so much for this explanation! So you're saying these aren't accounts with balances but more like regular payments based on his work history? That makes sense, but I'm still confused about what to tell the tax preparer when they ask about RMDs. Also, how would I find out if he used the Simplified Method or General Rule? Would this be in his past tax returns?
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Paolo Longo
•Federal pension payments are indeed regular payments based on a formula using years of service and salary history, not withdrawals from an account balance. You can confidently tell your tax preparer that OPM annuities don't have RMDs because they're not account-based retirement plans like IRAs. Looking at his previous tax returns would be the best way to determine which method he used. Check Form 1040 and any attached forms like Schedule R or tax worksheets. You'll see either the Simplified Method or General Rule calculations. Most federal retirees use the Simplified Method unless they retired before 1997, which doesn't sound like your father's case.
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Amina Bah
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Oliver Becker
•How does this actually work? Do you just upload the documents and it explains everything? Does it actually help with figuring out the taxable amount when box 2a says "unknown"?
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CosmicCowboy
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Amina Bah
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CosmicCowboy
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Natasha Orlova
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Javier Cruz
•Wait, so how does this actually work? Do they somehow jump you ahead in the phone queue? That seems impossible with government agencies.
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Emma Thompson
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Natasha Orlova
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Emma Thompson
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Malik Jackson
Just wanted to add something important - if your father had a CSRS (Civil Service Retirement System) pension rather than FERS (Federal Employee Retirement System), the tax treatment is slightly different. CSRS employees contributed more of their own money to the pension. You can tell which system he was in by looking at his 1099-R - there's a code that indicates CSRS vs FERS. This matters because it affects how much of the pension payments are considered taxable vs. return of contributions.
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Keisha Taylor
•How do I tell from the 1099-R which system he was in? I'm looking at the form now but don't see anything that specifically says CSRS or FERS.
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Malik Jackson
•Look at Box 7 on the 1099-R, which shows the distribution code. For federal pensions, you'll typically see code "7" which means normal distribution. More importantly, examine the payer information at the top of the 1099-R. If it mentions "CSRS" specifically, that's your answer. If you still can't tell, another approach is to check if there's a Social Security benefit. FERS recipients typically receive Social Security benefits alongside their pension, while CSRS employees generally don't (unless they had other qualifying employment). So if your father received both an OPM pension AND Social Security, he was likely under FERS.
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Isabella Costa
Just a quick tip - print out IRS Publication 721 "Tax Guide to U.S. Civil Service Retirement Benefits". It has EVERYTHING you need about federal pensions and taxation.
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StarSurfer
•That publication is super helpful but also really confusing for beginners. I found the worksheets for calculating the taxable portion almost impossible to follow without help.
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