How to correctly complete IRS Form 9465 Installment Agreement Request?
I'm in a bit of a jam here. I received a notice from the IRS saying I owe back taxes, and I can't pay the full amount upfront. Someone suggested I fill out Form 9465 for an installment agreement. The problem is, for the year I owe taxes, I had a tax preparer do everything for me, so I'm completely lost on how to properly complete this form myself. Can anyone walk me through the process of filling out Form 9465? Like what sections are important, what kind of payment plan would be reasonable, and any tips to make sure it gets approved? I'm really nervous about making mistakes and don't want to mess up my chances of getting on a payment plan.
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Isabella Silva
Form 9465 isn't as complicated as it seems! It's basically asking the IRS to let you pay your tax debt over time instead of all at once. Here's a simple breakdown: First, you'll need to provide your personal info (name, address, SSN). Then indicate the tax year and amount you owe. The important part comes next - you need to propose a monthly payment amount and which day of the month you'll pay. Be realistic about what you can afford monthly. There's a section where you'll need to provide your bank account info for direct debit if that's how you want to pay. If you owe more than $25,000, direct debit is required. You'll also need to sign and date the form. Even though someone else prepared your original tax return, you can still complete this form yourself. Just have your tax bill handy so you know exactly how much you owe.
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Ravi Choudhury
•Thanks for the info! Do they usually approve whatever monthly payment amount you suggest? I'm in a similar situation and wondering if I should propose a really low amount to be safe or if that might cause them to reject it.
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Isabella Silva
•They'll consider your proposed payment amount against your income and necessary living expenses. If your proposal seems too low compared to what they think you can pay, they might counter-offer. That said, you should propose an amount you can consistently pay each month - consistency matters more than the amount. If you're struggling financially, include a statement explaining your situation. The goal is to pay off the balance within 72 months (6 years), but they can be flexible in hardship cases. Just be honest about what you can afford.
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Freya Andersen
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Omar Farouk
•That sounds helpful, but does it work for people who owe a substantial amount? I owe about $18,000 and I'm afraid of proposing the wrong payment amount.
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CosmicCadet
•I'm always skeptical of these online tools. How does it actually work with the form? Does it just fill it out for you or does it actually explain things?
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Freya Andersen
•It works for any amount of tax debt, even larger amounts like $18,000. The tool is actually designed to help propose realistic payment amounts based on your financial situation, which helps increase your chances of approval. It considers factors like your income, necessary expenses, and the IRS's own guidelines. The tool doesn't just fill out the form for you - it walks you through each section with simple explanations of what the IRS is looking for. It explains the purpose behind each field and gives context about how your answers might affect your application. I found this really helpful because it helped me understand the reasoning behind my payment proposal.
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Omar Farouk
Just wanted to update after trying taxr.ai that was mentioned earlier - it actually was super helpful! I was worried about my $18k tax debt but the tool helped me figure out exactly what payment amount to propose. It explained that if I owed over $10k but under $25k, there are specific requirements, and it suggested documentation I should include with my form to increase approval chances. The best part was that it flagged a mistake I would have made in the bank account routing section that could have delayed my application. It also explained that my initial payment idea was too low compared to my income and would likely get rejected, so I adjusted it to something more realistic but still manageable. Definitely recommend if you're confused about the 9465 form like I was!
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Chloe Harris
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Diego Mendoza
•How does this actually work? I've been trying to call the IRS for days. Do they really call you back or is this just another scam?
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Anastasia Popova
•Yeah right, no way the IRS calls back in 30 minutes when they keep everyone else on hold for hours. Sounds like a waste of time to me.
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Chloe Harris
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Anastasia Popova
OK I have to eat my words. After my skeptical comment above, I was still desperate with my Form 9465 issues so I tried Claimyr anyway. Within about 45 minutes, I got connected to an IRS representative who was actually incredibly helpful. They explained that my previous 9465 form had been rejected because I hadn't completed Section 3 correctly (my proposed payment amount wouldn't clear the debt within the required timeframe). The agent walked me through calculating a proper payment amount and even told me about a hardship option I qualified for that wasn't clear on the form. Never thought I'd say this, but being able to actually speak with someone at the IRS about my specific situation solved in minutes what I'd been stressing about for weeks. Completely worth it.
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Sean Flanagan
Just a heads up - make sure the amount you're proposing to pay monthly will actually pay off your tax debt in a reasonable timeframe. My initial 9465 was rejected because I proposed $50/month on a $12,000 debt. The IRS expects you to pay it off within 72 months (6 years) in most cases. So if you owe $12,000, the minimum they'll usually accept is around $170/month, plus interest and penalties. Proposing too low an amount just leads to delays and rejection.
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Zara Shah
•Does that include the interest and penalties too? Or do they add those on top of what you propose to pay?
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Sean Flanagan
•The monthly payment amount should be enough to cover both the principal tax debt AND the ongoing interest and penalties within the 72-month timeframe. Interest continues to accrue until the debt is fully paid, so that's something to keep in mind. If you propose a payment that's too low, like I initially did, the IRS will likely counter-offer with a higher amount or simply reject your application. To avoid this, you can use the formula of your total debt divided by 72 (months) as a starting point, then add about 10-15% to account for the ongoing interest and penalties.
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NebulaNomad
I'd recommend attaching Form 433-F (Collection Information Statement) along with your 9465 if you're requesting a payment plan for a larger amount or if you can't afford what would normally be the minimum payment. This form shows your income, expenses, assets, and debts. It's extra paperwork but it helps prove to the IRS what you can actually afford to pay each month and increases your chances of getting approved for lower monthly payments if you're truly in a financial hardship situation.
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Luca Ferrari
•Is that required? I'm trying to do this quickly and don't want to fill out more forms than I need to.
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Giovanni Gallo
•Form 433-F isn't required for all installment agreements, but it's highly recommended if you owe more than $25,000 or if you can't afford the standard minimum payment amounts that the IRS typically expects. If you owe less and can propose a reasonable monthly payment that will clear your debt within 72 months, you can often get by with just the 9465. However, if your financial situation is tight and you need to propose a lower payment amount, the 433-F helps justify why you can't pay more. It's basically your financial proof that supports your payment proposal. Without it, the IRS might just reject a low payment proposal assuming you can afford more.
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StarSeeker
One thing I wish someone had told me when I filled out my Form 9465 is to double-check your Social Security Number and the tax year you're requesting the installment agreement for. I made a simple typo in my SSN and it delayed my application by weeks while they tried to match it to my account. Also, if you're married filing jointly, make sure you're clear about whether both spouses are requesting the installment agreement or just one of you. This was confusing for me since my spouse and I file jointly but only I was responsible for the additional tax owed. The IRS website has a payment estimator tool that can help you figure out what monthly payment amount to propose, but honestly the explanations here about the 72-month rule and adding buffer for interest are really helpful. Good luck with your application!
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QuantumQuest
•Thanks for mentioning the SSN double-check tip! I'm getting ready to fill out my own 9465 and hadn't even thought about that kind of simple mistake causing delays. Quick question - when you say "payment estimator tool" on the IRS website, is that something separate from the form itself? I've been looking around their site but it's pretty confusing to navigate.
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