How to confirm exact amount owed after tax extension filing?
My in-laws are driving me crazy with their tax situation. They filed an extension back in April, then had their taxes professionally prepared about two months ago. The problem is they still haven't paid what they owe! They keep saying they "don't know exactly how much" to pay, even though their completed tax return clearly shows the amount due. Their concern is that since it's now months past the April 15th deadline, there might be additional penalties and interest. I went ahead and created an IRS online account for my father-in-law (they file jointly), but frustratingly, there's no amount showing as owed in the system yet. Is it fine to just pay whatever amount is listed on their completed tax return? Or do they need to calculate additional fees and interest that have accumulated? If so, how can they find out the exact total amount including all the penalties? Starting to worry they'll dig themselves into a deeper hole the longer they wait.
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QuantumLeap
Tax professional here! This is actually a pretty common situation. When you file an extension, that only extends the time to file the return, not the time to pay what's owed. So your in-laws are correct that there will be additional penalties and interest on top of their original tax bill. The good news is that they can absolutely pay the amount shown on their completed return right away. This will stop additional penalties and interest from accumulating on that principal amount. The IRS will eventually send them a notice with the calculated penalties and interest, which they can pay separately. If they want to be proactive and pay everything at once, they can call the IRS directly at 1-800-829-1040 to get the current total including all penalties and interest. Alternatively, they can use the IRS's penalty and interest calculator on their website to get an estimate, then add that to their original amount due.
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Malik Johnson
•Thanks for the info! Do the penalties add up significantly? My parents are in a similar situation but are dragging their feet because they "don't have the money right now." I'm worried they're just making it worse.
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QuantumLeap
•The penalties can definitely add up, especially over time. The IRS typically charges a failure-to-pay penalty of 0.5% of the unpaid taxes per month, up to a maximum of 25%. Plus, interest compounds daily at the federal short-term rate plus 3%. For your parents, my strong recommendation would be to pay whatever they can now, even if it's not the full amount. Partial payments will reduce the base amount that penalties and interest accrue on. They can also look into setting up an installment agreement with the IRS if they truly can't pay the full amount.
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Isabella Santos
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Freya Larsen
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Diego Ramirez
I think everyone's overcomplicating this. Just have your in-laws pay what's on the tax return ASAP, and when the IRS eventually sends a notice about penalties and interest, they can pay that too. That's what I did last year when I filed late, and it worked out fine. The penalties weren't that bad since I paid the main amount quickly.
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Emma Wilson
•Thanks, that makes sense. Did it take long for the IRS to send the notice with the penalties? My in-laws are worried about "forgetting" if it takes months for that notice to arrive.
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Diego Ramirez
•It took about 6-8 weeks for me to get the notice with the penalties and interest. The amount wasn't huge since I had paid the main tax bill right away. One thing to consider - if your in-laws are really concerned about "forgetting," they could always pay a little extra now (maybe 5-10% more than what's shown on their return). The IRS will just apply any overpayment to their account or refund it. Personally, I'd rather pay a bit extra than worry about underpaying and getting more notices.
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Anastasia Sokolov
Has anyone tried using the IRS's own penalty calculator on their website? I used it when I filed late last year and found it pretty accurate. You just enter some basic info from your tax return and when you plan to pay, and it estimates the penalties and interest.
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Sean O'Connor
•I tried using that calculator and found it confusing as heck. Kept asking for information I didn't have readily available. Ended up just paying what was on my return and dealing with the penalties later.
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Chloe Zhang
As someone who's been through this exact situation, I completely understand your in-laws' hesitation! The anxiety of not knowing the exact amount can be paralyzing. Here's what I learned from my experience: The most important thing is to pay the amount shown on their completed tax return IMMEDIATELY. Every day they wait, more interest and penalties accrue. The IRS charges 0.5% per month for failure to pay, plus daily compounding interest. Since their online account isn't showing the debt yet (this is normal - it can take weeks or months to update), they should make the payment using Form 1040V or through EFTPS (Electronic Federal Tax Payment System) with their SSN and tax year. For the penalties and interest calculation, they have a few options: 1. Pay the base amount now, wait for the IRS notice (6-8 weeks typically) 2. Call the IRS at 1-800-829-1040 for current total (prepare for long hold times) 3. Use the IRS penalty calculator, though it can be tricky to navigate The key is getting that base payment in ASAP to stop the bleeding. They can always pay any additional penalties when they get the official notice. Better to have the IRS owe them a small refund than to keep accumulating charges!
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