How to complete Form 5329 lines 52a-53b for missed RMD correction?
So I screwed up last year and didn't withdraw my full Required Minimum Distribution (RMD) amount. I realized my mistake and withdrew the remaining amount in January this year, which should be within the correction window. But now I'm completely confused about how to fill out Form 5329 with these new line items. I see there's now an "a" and "b" for lines 52 and 53, and I'm trying to figure out what numbers go where: 1. For line 52a - should I enter the full RMD amount I was supposed to withdraw? Like if I needed to take out $13,500 from my IRA last year, do I put $13,500 on line 52a? 2. For line 52b - It says "from all other plans" - does this mean non-qualified plans since 52a is for qualified plans? I only have an inherited IRA and inherited Roth, which I think are qualified plans, so would this be zero? 3. For line 53a - I'm completely lost here. The old form asked for what you actually withdrew. Should I only enter what I withdrew last year? Or do I include the correction amount I took in January within the correction window? 4. For line 53b - Same confusion as 52b - is this for non-qualified plans only? Any help would be greatly appreciated! I'm trying to get this right and avoid penalties.
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Justin Chang
The Form 5329 can definitely be confusing with the recent changes. I'll break this down for you: Line 52a is where you enter the RMD required from your traditional IRAs, including any inherited traditional IRAs. So yes, if your total RMD requirement was $13,500, that's what goes on line 52a. Line 52b is for RMDs from other types of retirement accounts like 401(k)s, 403(b)s, or 457 plans - not for non-qualified plans. Since you only mentioned inherited IRAs and Roth IRAs, this line would likely be zero unless you have other employer plans with RMD requirements. For line 53a, you should enter the total distributions you actually took from your traditional IRAs during the tax year - only what you withdrew last year, not including the correction you made in January this year. Line 53b would be distributions from those other types of accounts (401k, etc.). Again, likely zero based on what you've shared. The correction you made in January falls under the IRS's correction program, and you'll need to file Form 5329 with a statement attached explaining that you made the correction.
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Grace Thomas
•Wait, I thought if you caught up on your RMD within the correction window you didn't need to pay the 25% penalty at all? Does filing the 5329 with the statement get you out of the penalty completely, or is there still some partial penalty? Also what exactly should the statement say?
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Justin Chang
•You're right that catching up within the correction window helps you avoid the penalty. When you file Form 5329, you'd fill out lines 52 and 53 as I described, which would calculate a shortfall on line 54. But then you can write "RC" (for reasonable cause) next to line 55 and enter zero as the penalty amount. The statement should be brief but clear - explain that you missed taking the full RMD for the tax year, but corrected it by taking the remaining distribution on [specific date] in January, which falls within the IRS correction program window. Include the exact amount of the corrective distribution and reference that you're requesting a waiver of the penalty under the correction program.
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Hunter Brighton
After struggling with a similar situation, I tried taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) and it made figuring out Form 5329 so much easier. I uploaded my tax documents and got clear instructions specifically for my missed RMD situation. The site analyzed my distribution history and told me exactly what to enter on each line of the updated form, plus generated the waiver statement I needed to include with my return.
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Dylan Baskin
•Did it give you a template for that waiver statement? I'm in the same boat but my tax software doesn't seem to have any guidance for this specific situation. Also, were you able to e-file or did you have to mail in your return with the statement?
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Lauren Wood
•I'm curious - how accurate was it? I used TurboTax and it completely confused me when it came to these RMD correction issues. Does taxr.ai actually understand the correction window rules properly?
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Hunter Brighton
•Yes, it provided a template statement that I could customize with my specific dates and dollar amounts. The template included all the necessary language about correcting within the window and requesting penalty relief. It was very accurate for my situation. What impressed me was that it specifically recognized the correction window rules and explained how they applied to my case. Unlike TurboTax, it walked me through the process of reporting both the missed RMD and the correction I made, including how to properly request the waiver. Their system seemed to be updated with the latest IRS guidance on these corrections.
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Lauren Wood
Just wanted to follow up on this thread. I decided to try taxr.ai after seeing it mentioned here and it was exactly what I needed. My situation was slightly different (I missed RMDs from both an inherited IRA and a 403b), but the system correctly identified how to allocate everything between lines 52a and 52b, and also explained how to report my January correction. The waiver statement template was accepted by the IRS without any issues. Saved me hours of frustration and possibly an expensive penalty!
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Ellie Lopez
If you need to talk to someone at the IRS about this (which might be a good idea given the complexity), I highly recommend using Claimyr (https://claimyr.com) to get through to an agent. I was on hold for HOURS trying to get clarification about my own RMD situation before I discovered this service. You can see how it works in this video: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c. I got through to an actual IRS agent in about 20 minutes who walked me through exactly how to complete Form 5329 in my situation.
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Chad Winthrope
•How does that even work? The IRS phone system is a nightmare - I've literally spent entire mornings on hold. Are you saying this service somehow jumps the queue? That sounds too good to be true.
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Paige Cantoni
•I'm skeptical. Even if you do get through to an IRS agent, they often give conflicting advice. I once called three times and got three different answers about how to handle a corrected RMD. Did you actually get clear guidance you could rely on?
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Ellie Lopez
•It doesn't jump the queue in the way you might think. The service uses technology to wait on hold for you, then calls you back when an IRS agent picks up. So you're still "in line" but don't have to personally wait on hold for hours. I completely understand your skepticism - I've had that exact experience before. The difference this time was I came prepared with very specific questions about Form 5329 lines 52-53 and the correction program. The agent I spoke with was in the retirement accounts department and was knowledgeable about the RMD correction window. I took detailed notes and asked them to reference specific IRS publications to confirm their guidance. The information matched what my CPA had told me but with more specific details about how to complete the form.
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Paige Cantoni
I have to admit I was wrong about Claimyr. After posting my skeptical comment, I decided to try it since I was getting nowhere with my 5329 questions. Got connected to an IRS retirement specialist in about 30 minutes who confirmed exactly how to handle the correction window situation. The agent explained that I needed to complete Form 5329 showing the shortfall but could request a waiver by writing "RC" next to line 55 with a statement explaining the timely correction. Saved me from potentially paying a 25% penalty on money I did eventually withdraw. Still annoyed that the IRS forms and instructions aren't clearer about this!
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Kylo Ren
Here's another wrinkle to consider - if you make the correction in a new tax year but within the correction window, are you supposed to also include that amount in your current year's distributions? Or does it only count toward fixing last year's shortfall?
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Nina Fitzgerald
•My accountant told me the correction only applies to the previous year's shortfall and doesn't count toward your current year's RMD. So if you make the correction in January 2025 for a 2024 shortfall, you'd still need to take your full 2025 RMD by December 31, 2025.
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Kylo Ren
•Thanks for the clarification. That makes sense but it's confusing because the money is physically coming out in the current tax year. I wish the IRS would make this clearer in their instructions!
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Jason Brewer
Has anyone actually been hit with the penalty for missing an RMD? It went up from 50% to 25% recently, but I'm curious if the IRS frequently enforces it or typically waives it if you make the correction.
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Kiara Fisherman
•My father-in-law got hit with it a few years ago before the rate was reduced. He missed his full RMD and didn't realize it until he got a CP notice from the IRS almost 18 months later. By then it was too late for the correction window, so he had to pay the full 50% penalty. Expensive lesson.
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Giovanni Greco
Thanks for this detailed thread - it's been really helpful! I'm in a similar situation but with one additional complication. I missed my RMD from an inherited traditional IRA last year, but I also have a regular traditional IRA that I did take the correct RMD from. When filling out Form 5329, do I need to include the distributions from both IRAs on line 53a, or only report the one where I had the shortfall? And should the required amount on line 52a be the combined RMD requirement from both accounts, or just the amount I was supposed to take from the inherited IRA where I missed it? I've been going in circles trying to figure out if I report everything together or handle each account separately on the form.
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Andre Dupont
•You need to report everything together on Form 5329. Line 52a should include the total RMD requirement from ALL your traditional IRAs - both the regular IRA and the inherited IRA. Similarly, line 53a should show the total distributions you actually took from ALL your traditional IRAs during the tax year. The form calculates the shortfall by comparing your total required distributions to your total actual distributions across all accounts of the same type. So if your regular IRA RMD was $5,000 (which you took) and your inherited IRA RMD was $3,000 (which you missed), you'd put $8,000 on line 52a and $5,000 on line 53a, showing a $3,000 shortfall on line 54.
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Gianni Serpent
I've been through this exact situation and want to add a few important points that might help others: First, make sure you understand which correction window applies to your situation. The IRS has a self-correction program that allows you to fix missed RMDs by April 15th of the year following the missed distribution without penalty. There's also a longer correction window under the Employee Plans Compliance Resolution System (EPCRS), but that's more complex. One thing I learned the hard way - if you have multiple retirement accounts, you need to be careful about how you calculate your total RMD. For traditional IRAs, you can aggregate the RMD amounts and take the total from any one or combination of your IRAs. But inherited IRAs must be calculated and distributed separately - you can't use a distribution from a regular IRA to satisfy an inherited IRA's RMD requirement. Also, keep detailed records of everything. When I filed my Form 5329 with the correction statement, I included copies of all distribution statements, calculations showing my required amounts, and documentation of the corrective distribution. The IRS accepted it without any follow-up questions. The key is being thorough and transparent about what happened and how you corrected it. Don't try to hide the mistake - the correction program exists specifically for these situations.
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Salim Nasir
•This is incredibly helpful - thank you for sharing your experience! The point about inherited IRAs being calculated separately is crucial and something I didn't fully understand before. I'm curious about the documentation you mentioned keeping. When you say you included "copies of all distribution statements," did you mean the 1099-R forms you received, or were there other statements from your IRA custodian that were important to include? Also, did you have to submit the Form 5329 by mail because of the attached correction statement, or were you able to e-file everything together?
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Noah Ali
•By distribution statements, I meant both the 1099-R forms and also the year-end statements from my IRA custodian that showed the account balances used to calculate the RMD amounts. Some custodians also provide specific RMD calculation worksheets that show exactly how they arrived at your required distribution amount - those are gold if you have them. For filing, I had to mail in my return because of the correction statement attachment. Most tax software doesn't handle the penalty waiver statement properly for e-filing, so paper filing was the safest route. The statement itself was pretty straightforward - I explained that I missed taking $X from my inherited IRA by December 31st, but corrected it on [date] in January within the self-correction window, and requested waiver of the penalty under IRC Section 4974 reasonable cause provisions. One more tip: make copies of everything before mailing and send it certified mail with return receipt. The IRS processing can be slow, and having proof of delivery gives you peace of mind.
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CosmicCrusader
I just went through this exact situation with my inherited Roth IRA and wanted to share what I learned. One thing that really tripped me up initially was understanding that even inherited Roth IRAs have RMD requirements - I mistakenly thought only traditional IRAs had them. For the form completion, everything everyone said above is spot on. But I wanted to add that if you're dealing with an inherited Roth IRA specifically, make sure you're calculating the RMD correctly using the beneficiary's life expectancy table, not the original account owner's. My custodian provided a worksheet, but I double-checked their math and found they had made an error. Also, when you write your correction statement, be specific about which type of account you're correcting. I wrote something like "Failed to take required minimum distribution of $2,850 from inherited Roth IRA by December 31, 2024. Corrective distribution of $2,850 taken on January 15, 2025, within the self-correction window. Requesting penalty waiver under reasonable cause provisions." The whole process was less scary than I thought it would be once I understood the steps. The key is just being methodical about the documentation and not panicking about the mistake.
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NeonNova
•Thank you so much for sharing your experience with the inherited Roth IRA - I had no idea they had RMD requirements too! I'm actually dealing with both an inherited traditional IRA and an inherited Roth IRA from my grandmother, and I think I may have missed RMDs from both accounts. Your point about using the beneficiary's life expectancy table is really important - I need to go back and check if my custodian calculated everything correctly. Did you use the IRS Publication 590-B table, or did your custodian provide their own calculation worksheet? Also, when you corrected both accounts, did you need to file separate Form 5329s or could you handle both corrections on the same form?
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Nia Watson
•You can handle both corrections on the same Form 5329! Since both inherited IRAs fall under traditional IRA treatment for RMD purposes (even though one is a Roth), you'd include the combined required amounts and distributions on lines 52a and 53a. For the life expectancy calculation, I used the Single Life Expectancy Table from IRS Publication 590-B, but my custodian also provided their own worksheet that referenced the same table. I'd definitely recommend double-checking their math - in my case, they had used the wrong age factor for my calculation year. When you write your correction statement, just mention both accounts: "Failed to take required minimum distributions totaling $X from inherited traditional IRA and $Y from inherited Roth IRA by December 31, 2024. Corrective distributions taken on [dates] in January 2025, within the self-correction window. Requesting penalty waiver under reasonable cause provisions." The key is being thorough with your documentation for both accounts. Keep all the custodian statements showing the account balances and RMD calculations for each account.
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Oliver Fischer
This entire thread has been incredibly helpful - thank you all for sharing your experiences! I'm dealing with a similar missed RMD situation, but I have one specific question that I haven't seen addressed yet. When you make the corrective distribution in January (within the correction window), does the timing matter for tax purposes? For example, if I took my corrective distribution on January 5th versus January 30th, does that affect anything on Form 5329 or the penalty waiver request? Also, I've seen some conflicting information about whether you need to pay estimated taxes on the corrective distribution in the current year or if it's treated differently since it's technically correcting the prior year's shortfall. Has anyone dealt with the estimated tax implications of these corrective distributions? I'm trying to get all my ducks in a row before filing and want to make sure I'm not missing any important details about timing or tax treatment.
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Eli Butler
•Great questions about timing! From what I understand, the specific date within January shouldn't matter much for Form 5329 purposes as long as it's within the correction window (by April 15th of the following year). The IRS correction program just requires that you make the distribution "as soon as possible" after discovering the error, so January 5th vs January 30th would both be considered timely corrections. For the tax implications, the corrective distribution is treated as taxable income in the year you actually received it (so 2025 in your example), not the year it was supposed to be taken (2024). This means you'll get a 1099-R for 2025 showing the distribution, and yes, you may need to make estimated tax payments if the withholding isn't sufficient to cover the additional tax liability. I'd recommend checking with your tax preparer about the estimated tax requirements, since it depends on your overall income situation. Some people increase withholding from other sources to cover it, while others make quarterly estimated payments. The key thing for Form 5329 is that you're correcting the prior year's shortfall - the current year tax treatment is handled separately on your regular tax return.
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Dylan Mitchell
This thread has been incredibly informative! As someone who just discovered I missed part of my RMD from an inherited traditional IRA, I'm feeling much more confident about handling the correction process. One thing I wanted to add that might help others - when I called my IRA custodian to discuss taking the corrective distribution, they were able to process it the same day and even helped me calculate the exact shortfall amount. They mentioned that they see these correction situations fairly regularly, especially in January, so don't be embarrassed to reach out to them for help with the calculations. I'm also planning to set up automatic RMD distributions for next year to avoid this situation entirely. Most custodians offer this service where they'll automatically distribute your RMD amount in December based on the required calculation. It takes the guesswork and potential for human error out of the equation. Thanks again to everyone who shared their experiences - it's made what seemed like an overwhelming tax problem much more manageable!
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Zara Ahmed
•That's a great point about setting up automatic distributions! I wish I had known about that option earlier - would have saved me all this stress. Just wanted to add for anyone reading this that when you do set up automatic RMDs, make sure to review the calculation each year since account balances and life expectancy factors change. Some custodians will automatically adjust, but others might use outdated calculations if you don't update them. Also, if you have multiple IRA accounts, coordinate with all your custodians so you don't accidentally take more than required from some accounts while missing others. This whole experience has definitely taught me to be more proactive about retirement account management!
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Zoe Walker
This has been such a comprehensive and helpful discussion! I'm currently dealing with a missed RMD situation myself and have found all the shared experiences invaluable. One additional resource I wanted to mention that helped me understand the correction process better is IRS Publication 590-B, specifically the section on penalties and corrections. It provides detailed examples of how to calculate RMDs for different types of accounts and explains the correction procedures step by step. Also, for anyone who's nervous about making the corrective distribution, I found it helpful to call my custodian first and explain the situation. They walked me through exactly how much I needed to withdraw and helped me understand the tax implications before I actually took the distribution. Most of the major custodians (Fidelity, Vanguard, Schwab, etc.) have specialized retirement services representatives who are very familiar with RMD corrections. The key takeaway I've gotten from this thread is that the IRS correction program exists specifically for these situations, and as long as you're proactive about fixing the mistake and thorough with your documentation, the penalty waiver process is pretty straightforward. Thanks to everyone who shared their real-world experiences - it's made what seemed like a complex tax problem much less intimidating!
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Makayla Shoemaker
•Thank you for mentioning IRS Publication 590-B - I wish I had known about that resource when I was going through my own RMD correction situation! Your point about calling the custodian first is spot on. I was so worried about admitting my mistake, but when I finally called, the representative was incredibly helpful and non-judgmental. They even offered to calculate the exact shortfall for me and explained how the corrective distribution would be reported on my 1099-R. It's reassuring to hear that others have had positive experiences with the correction program. The IRS gets a lot of criticism, but this is one area where they seem to have created a reasonable process for honest mistakes. I'm definitely setting up automatic RMDs for all my accounts going forward!
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QuantumQuester
As someone who recently went through a similar RMD correction situation, I wanted to share a few additional tips that might be helpful: First, when you're preparing your Form 5329, double-check that you're using the correct year's form. The IRS updated the form for 2023 and later years with those new "a" and "b" line designations you mentioned, so make sure you're not accidentally using an older version. Second, if you're unsure about any of the calculations, consider reaching out to the IRS Taxpayer Advocate Service. They can provide guidance on complex situations like this at no cost, and they're generally more helpful than the regular customer service line for technical questions about forms and penalties. Finally, keep a copy of everything you file, including your correction statement. Even though the penalty waiver should be processed automatically, there's always a chance the IRS might follow up with questions months later, and having all your documentation organized will make any future correspondence much easier to handle. The good news is that once you get through this correction process, you'll have a much better understanding of RMD requirements going forward. Many people learn about these rules the hard way, but at least the IRS provides a reasonable path to fix honest mistakes.
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