How to calculate payroll taxes for small business employees?
Hey everyone, I'm completely overwhelmed trying to figure out how to calculate payroll taxes for my small bakery. I just hired 3 employees and I've never done this before. I'm trying to do the payroll myself to save money but these tax calculations are making my head spin! I understand I need to withhold federal income tax, Social Security, and Medicare from employee paychecks, plus pay the employer portion... but HOW do I actually calculate all this? What percentages do I use? And do I need to include state taxes too? (I'm in Illinois if that matters) I've looked at the IRS website but honestly it's super confusing. Is there a simple formula or breakdown someone can provide? I really don't want to mess this up and get in trouble with the IRS. Thanks in advance for any help!!
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Dyllan Nantx
The basic payroll tax calculation process isn't as complicated as it seems once you break it down: For federal income tax withholding, you'll need each employee to complete a W-4 form. Based on their filing status and other information provided, you'll use the IRS withholding tables in Publication 15-T to determine the amount to withhold from each paycheck. For Social Security, withhold 6.2% of each employee's wages up to the 2025 wage base limit of $168,600. You as the employer also pay a matching 6.2%. For Medicare, withhold 1.45% of each employee's wages (no wage base limit). You also pay a matching 1.45%. For employees earning over $200,000, an additional 0.9% Medicare tax is withheld (but no matching employer portion for this extra amount). For Illinois state income tax, withhold 4.95% of taxable wages. You'll also need to pay Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA) of 6.0% on the first $7,000 of each employee's wages (though this is often offset by state credits). Illinois has its own unemployment insurance tax which varies by employer. Consider using payroll software - even the basic versions can save you tons of time and reduce errors. Many are quite affordable for small businesses.
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TillyCombatwarrior
•Thanks for the breakdown! For the Social Security rate - is that 6.2% going to increase in 2025? I heard something about possible changes. Also, how often do I need to actually deposit these tax payments to the IRS? Monthly? Quarterly?
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Dyllan Nantx
•The 6.2% Social Security rate has remained stable for many years and no increases have been officially announced for 2025, though the wage base limit does typically increase annually (that's the $168,600 figure I mentioned). Your deposit schedule for federal taxes depends on your size. Most new small employers use a monthly deposit schedule, where you must deposit taxes by the 15th day of the following month. However, if you accumulate $100,000 or more in taxes during any deposit period, you must deposit within one business day. After your first calendar year, the IRS will notify you of your deposit schedule based on your reporting history.
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Anna Xian
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Jungleboo Soletrain
•Does it handle tipped employees? I run a small coffee shop and I'm struggling with how to properly account for tips in payroll taxes.
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Rajan Walker
•How does it handle contractors vs employees? I have both and always get confused about which forms to use and what taxes apply to each.
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Anna Xian
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Rajan Walker
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Avery Davis
Don't forget about workers' comp insurance! While not technically a "tax," it's calculated based on payroll and is required in most states. The rate varies by the type of work your employees do. For a bakery, your rates might be higher than some office jobs because of potential injuries from equipment, burns, etc. Each employee's wages get multiplied by the rate for their job classification. Keep this in your calculations because it's a significant payroll expense that catches many new business owners by surprise!
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Destiny Bryant
•Omg I didn't even think about workers comp! Do I calculate that the same way as the other payroll taxes? Is there a standard percentage for bakery workers?
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Avery Davis
•You don't calculate workers comp the same way as payroll taxes. You'll need to contact an insurance provider who offers workers compensation insurance in Illinois. They'll assign classification codes based on the type of work (bakers might be code 9083) and give you a rate per $100 of payroll for each classification. The rates for bakery workers vary widely by state, but in Illinois, you might expect something around $1.50-$3.00 per $100 in payroll, depending on your claims history and other factors. So if you have $10,000 in monthly payroll, you might pay $150-$300 monthly for coverage.
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Collins Angel
Plz dont make the mistake i made... i tried to do my own payroll and messed up the calculations so bad that i ended up owing like $2300 in penalties and interest. seriously consider just paying for a payroll service like gusto or quickbooks payroll, its like $45/month + $6 per employee which seems like a lot but way cheaper than the mistakes youll probably make trust me when i say the IRS doesnt mess around with payroll taxes!!! they hit u with penalties superrr fast if u mess up
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Marcelle Drum
•I second this. I messed up some calculations and classified contractors incorrectly. Ended up with huge fines. A payroll service would have been so much cheaper!
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