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Freya Andersen

How is tax calculated when investing in a foreign company? Tax implications explained

I'm considering putting some money into a private company based in Europe. From what I've gathered, it seems pretty simple - if they distribute dividends yearly, I just pay tax on those dividends when I receive them. What's confusing me is the difference between owning a small stake versus being a majority owner. If the company reports profits but chooses to reinvest everything back into operations instead of paying dividends, do I still owe taxes? In the US tax system, when your business makes money, you generally owe taxes on those profits. I feel like I'm missing something important about foreign investment taxation. Is it really just about the dividends, or are there other taxable events I should know about? I plan to speak with a tax attorney soon, but wanted to get some basic understanding first. Thanks for any insights you can provide on how foreign company investment taxes actually work!

Omar Farouk

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When investing in foreign companies, your tax obligations depend on several factors. The key distinction is between passive foreign investment versus controlling interest. For minority ownership in a foreign company, you typically only pay US taxes when you receive actual income (dividends, capital gains when you sell). The company can reinvest profits without triggering US tax consequences for you. However, if the foreign company is considered a Passive Foreign Investment Company (PFIC), there are additional complex tax rules that may apply. For majority ownership (generally over 50%, but sometimes lower thresholds apply), you may be dealing with Controlled Foreign Corporation (CFC) rules. Under these rules, certain types of income might be taxable to you even if not distributed as dividends - this is called Subpart F income. Also don't forget about foreign tax credits - if you paid taxes to the foreign country, you can often claim a credit against your US taxes to avoid double taxation.

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CosmicCadet

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Thanks for the explanation! I've heard about PFICs before but don't really understand them. At what ownership percentage would I need to worry about PFIC rules versus CFC rules? And what's this Subpart F income you mentioned?

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Omar Farouk

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PFIC rules typically apply regardless of your ownership percentage - even a small investment can trigger them. A foreign corporation is generally considered a PFIC if either 75% or more of its gross income is passive income (like dividends, interest, royalties) or at least 50% of its assets produce passive income. Subpart F income is certain types of income earned by a CFC that is taxable to US shareholders even when not distributed. This includes passive income, foreign base company sales income, and certain insurance income. The CFC rules generally apply when US shareholders own more than 50% of the foreign corporation, and you personally own at least 10%.

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Chloe Harris

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Chloe Harris

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NebulaNomad

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Don't forget about Form 5471 if you own 10% or more of a foreign corporation! This form is incredibly detailed and the penalties for not filing it are harsh - starting at $10,000. I learned this the hard way with my investment in a Canadian startup. Also look into whether your investment qualifies for treaty benefits between the US and the country where the company is located. This can significantly reduce withholding taxes on dividends.

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Luca Ferrari

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Is there a minimum dollar amount for the Form 5471 requirement? I only invested about $5,000 in a foreign company but it gave me roughly 12% ownership since it's a small business.

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NebulaNomad

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There's no minimum dollar threshold for Form 5471 - it's based solely on your ownership percentage. If you own 10% or more, you generally need to file it regardless of whether your investment is $5,000 or $5 million. The reporting requirements are triggered by ownership percentage, not investment amount. That's why even relatively small investments in smaller foreign companies can create significant tax filing obligations. I'd recommend documenting your ownership percentage carefully, as the 10% threshold is a critical trigger point for these additional filing requirements.

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Nia Wilson

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Something nobody's mentioned yet - check if the foreign country has a tax treaty with the US! This makes a huge difference. I invested in a UK company and because of the tax treaty, my dividend tax rate was reduced from 30% to 15%. Also - watch out for foreign currency gains/losses. The IRS treats these as separate taxable events from your actual investment return. My tax software totally missed this and I had to file an amended return last year.

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Do you need to track the exchange rate on the specific dates you received dividends? That sounds like a nightmare for record-keeping.

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Aisha Hussain

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Would using a specialized accountant for this be worth it? I'm getting a headache just thinking about tracking all these foreign investment rules.

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Jamal Edwards

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Yes, you absolutely need to track exchange rates on the specific dates of each transaction - dividend receipts, stock purchases, sales, etc. The IRS requires you to convert everything to USD using the exchange rate from that specific date. I use the Treasury's daily exchange rates from their website to stay consistent. For record-keeping, I created a simple spreadsheet with columns for date, transaction type, foreign currency amount, exchange rate, and USD equivalent. It's tedious but necessary. Some tax software can help automate this if you input the foreign currency amounts. @37b3aea8aa57 A specialized international tax accountant is definitely worth it if your foreign investments are substantial or complex. The rules are intricate and the penalties for mistakes can be severe. I learned this after nearly missing several required forms in my first year of foreign investing.

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Emily Parker

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One important aspect that hasn't been covered yet is the timing of when you recognize income for tax purposes. For foreign investments, you need to be aware of the "constructive dividend" rules that can apply even when no actual cash distribution occurs. If you're investing in a European company as mentioned, also consider whether it's structured as a corporation, partnership, or other entity type under both US and foreign tax law. Sometimes an entity that's treated as a corporation abroad might be considered a partnership for US tax purposes, which completely changes your reporting obligations. Also worth noting - if you're planning to hold this investment long-term, consider the impact on your estate planning. Foreign investments can complicate estate tax filings significantly. The reporting requirements don't go away just because you're not actively managing the investment anymore. I'd strongly recommend getting that consultation with a tax attorney who specializes in international taxation before making the investment, not after. The structure you choose upfront can make a huge difference in your ongoing tax compliance burden.

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