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Liam McGuire

How far back can you claim business deductions for an LLC started last year?

Hey tax folks! I'm in a bit of a pickle. I started my landscaping LLC back in November 2023 and dropped around $13,500 on a utility trailer and some professional equipment (mowers, trimmers, the works). The thing is, I had zero income for the business in 2023 since it was winter and I was just setting up. I didn't even file any business returns for 2023 since there was no activity beyond my initial purchases. Now I'm wondering - can I still claim those 2023 expenses when I file my 2024 return this coming tax season? The trailer and equipment are obviously still being used in my business now that I'm actually operational, but I'm unsure if I missed the boat on those deductions by not filing anything for 2023. Any insights would be super appreciated!

Amara Eze

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You can absolutely claim those startup costs! The IRS allows you to deduct up to $5,000 in business startup expenses in your first year of business, with amounts over that threshold being amortized (spread out) over 15 years. The tricky part is determining your "first year of business" - which would be when you actually started operations, not necessarily when you formed the LLC. Since you didn't have any income in 2023, it sounds like your business truly began operations in 2024. In this case, 2024 would be considered your first year in business for tax purposes, and you can claim those 2023 expenses on your 2024 return. For the trailer and equipment specifically, those would typically be depreciated over their useful life using Section 179 or bonus depreciation, rather than being immediate startup expense deductions. The good news is you don't lose these deductions - they're just handled differently on your tax forms.

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Thanks for the info! So just to make sure I understand correctly - even though I purchased everything in 2023, I can still claim it all on my 2024 taxes since that's when I actually started doing business? Do I need any special documentation to prove when I actually started operations versus when I just bought the stuff?

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Amara Eze

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Yes, you've got it right! Since your business wasn't operational until 2024, that's when you can start claiming these expenses. The IRS looks at when you began carrying on business, not just when you spent money preparing to start. It's always good to have documentation of when your business actually began operations. This could include your first client contract, first payment received, business bank account statements showing activity, advertisements, or any other evidence showing when you actually started conducting business activities. Keep records of all those startup purchases too, with receipts showing the 2023 dates.

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NeonNomad

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Ava Thompson

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Just wanted to add that I took a slightly different approach with my consulting business startup. I actually did file a return for my LLC in the first year even though I only had expenses and no income. I filed a Schedule C showing a loss, which I was able to use to offset some of my W-2 income. If you spent $13,500 on equipment, you might have been able to use that loss against your other income in 2023. But don't worry - you haven't lost the deduction, you'll just take it in 2024 as others have explained. Just something to keep in mind for the future if you ever start another business!

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Liam McGuire

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Thanks for this perspective! I didn't even consider that I could have filed a loss for 2023. I was so focused on the fact that I hadn't made any money that I figured there was nothing to report. Definitely a learning experience for me. Do you think it's worth amending my 2023 return now to claim those expenses, or should I just go ahead with claiming them on my 2024 return as others suggested? I'm trying to figure out which approach would be more beneficial (or less complicated).

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Ava Thompson

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It might be worth running the numbers both ways to see which is more beneficial. If you had significant W-2 or other income in 2023 that you could offset with the business loss, an amendment might make sense. Filing an amendment isn't terribly complicated, but you'd need to weigh the potential tax savings against the time and possibly money (if you use a preparer) needed to file the amendment. Keep in mind that you generally have three years from the original filing deadline to amend a return, so you do have some time to decide.

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CyberSiren

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One thing nobody's mentioned - make sure you have SOLID documentation for those expenses if they were from 2023 but you're claiming them in 2024. The IRS tends to flag mismatched years, especially with new businesses. Keep receipts, bank statements, credit card statements, and maybe even take photos of the equipment showing you still own and use it. Better safe than sorry!

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Yes! This is critical advice. I got audited for exactly this reason a few years back - the dates on my receipts didn't match the tax year I claimed them in. Ended up being fine because I had the paper trail to show they were legitimate startup expenses, but it was still stressful.

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Great question! I went through something similar with my photography business. The key thing to understand is that the IRS distinguishes between when you incur expenses and when your business actually begins operations. Since you didn't start generating income until 2024, that's when your business truly "began" for tax purposes. You can definitely claim those 2023 expenses on your 2024 return. For the equipment (mowers, trimmers, etc.), you'll likely want to look into Section 179 deduction which allows you to deduct the full cost of qualifying equipment in the year you place it in service for your business - which would be 2024 in your case. The utility trailer might be handled differently depending on its weight and use, but don't worry about losing those deductions. Just make sure you keep all your 2023 receipts and any documentation showing when you actually started operating the business in 2024. The IRS is pretty reasonable about startup situations like this as long as you have good records.

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This is really helpful! I'm actually in a similar boat with my new handyman business. Quick question - does the Section 179 deduction have any limits I should be aware of? I spent about $8,000 on tools and a work van last year but didn't start taking clients until this year. Want to make sure I understand all the rules before I file.

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