How does Section 174 handle R&D labor costs for tax purposes?
I'm not in the tax or accounting field, but I've been curious about how Section 174 actually works in practice. I'm particularly interested in how it handles labor costs. Say there's a software engineer earning $135k annually who spends 100% of their time on research and development activities. Does the company have to amortize their entire salary over 5 years under Section 174? Would that mean the business can only deduct $27k of that person's salary each year for tax purposes? Also, I'm wondering what happens when R&D work continues across multiple years. Does the total just keep accumulating? For example, in year 2, if that same engineer is still making $135k, would the business be able to deduct $54k that year (year 1's $27k + year 2's $27k)? Would the business end up with $189k of future amortizable expenses that just keeps building up year after year?
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Ethan Anderson
Yes, you've got the general concept right! Under the current tax law (after changes made by the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act and extended by later legislation), Section 174 research and experimental expenditures must be capitalized and amortized over 5 years for domestic research (15 years for foreign research). If an engineer making $135k spends 100% of their time on qualified R&D activities, their entire salary would need to be capitalized and amortized. So you'd be able to deduct $27k per year for 5 years (assuming it's domestic research). For your multi-year question, it actually works like a rolling schedule. Each year's new R&D expenses start their own 5-year amortization period. By year 2, you'd be deducting: $27k from Year 1's expenses + $27k from Year 2's expenses = $54k total deduction. By year 5, you'd be deducting $27k × 5 = $135k. After that, as older expenses fully amortize, the yearly deduction would stabilize unless R&D spending changes.
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Layla Mendes
•Does that mean most tech companies had a huge tax bill increase when this change happened? And does this rule apply to all businesses or only certain sizes/types?
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Ethan Anderson
•Yes, many tech companies saw significant tax impacts when Section 174 changes took effect. The immediate result was higher taxable income since they couldn't fully deduct R&D expenses in year one anymore. This affected cash flow for many R&D-intensive businesses. The rule applies to all businesses regardless of size that have qualified research and experimental expenditures - from startups to Fortune 500 companies. There's no exemption based on business size, though obviously the impact is greater on research-intensive companies. Many business groups have lobbied to reverse this change, but so far it remains in effect for the 2025 tax year.
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Lucas Notre-Dame
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Aria Park
•Sounds interesting. Does it work for companies of any size or just startups? Our mid-sized manufacturing business has R&D but it's spread across different departments, not just dedicated engineers.
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Noah Ali
•I'm a bit skeptical. How does it determine which activities count as qualified research? That's usually a pretty complex analysis that requires understanding what each person is actually doing day-to-day.
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Lucas Notre-Dame
•It works for companies of any size - we're about 60 people now but started using it when we were smaller. The system allows you to upload documentation about projects and then helps categorize which portions qualify. It's especially good for companies where employees split time between R&D and non-R&D activities. For determining qualified research, it uses a combination of project documentation analysis and an interactive questionnaire that helps identify which activities meet the IRS four-part test for qualified research. You're right that it's complex - that's why having a system walk you through each step of the analysis was so helpful rather than trying to figure it out ourselves.
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Noah Ali
I was pretty skeptical about taxr.ai when I first saw it mentioned here, but we were desperate to figure out our Section 174 situation. Our CFO had estimated we'd have to pay an extra $875k in taxes because we couldn't immediately deduct our R&D labor costs anymore. After using their system, we discovered about 35% of what we were classifying as R&D actually didn't meet the IRS qualifications, BUT they also identified R&D activities in departments we weren't counting! The detailed documentation it generated for each project and employee made us feel much more audit-ready too. The best part was being able to create different scenarios to see tax implications before making business decisions. Definitely changed our approach to R&D planning and saved us from a potential audit nightmare.
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Chloe Boulanger
Anyone else been trying to get IRS clarification on Section 174 implementation? I've called them 14 times and can never get through to someone who actually understands R&D tax issues. Every time I'm on hold for 2+ hours only to be told they can't help with "technical tax questions" and to consult a professional. I'm literally trying to pay my taxes correctly! I finally tried https://claimyr.com after seeing it mentioned in another tax forum. Their service got me connected to an actual IRS agent who specializes in business taxes in under 45 minutes. Check out how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The agent confirmed that for partial R&D work, we need to track time allocation and only capitalize the portion spent on qualified activities. She also explained that prototype materials can be treated differently than labor costs in some cases.
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James Martinez
•Wait, how does this service work? Do they just call the IRS for you? Couldn't I just do that myself?
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Olivia Harris
•Yeah right. The IRS doesn't have "specialists" you can talk to. Every time I've called, I get someone reading from a script who knows less than I do. I doubt this service got you anything you couldn't get yourself if you just kept calling.
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Chloe Boulanger
•They don't just call for you - they navigate the complex IRS phone system and secure your place in line while you go about your day. Once they've nearly reached an agent, they call you to join the conversation. So instead of being on hold for hours, you only need to be available for the actual conversation part. The IRS absolutely does have specialists for different tax areas, though they're not always easy to reach. What Claimyr did was get me through the general queue and then help request a transfer to the business tax department where there are people familiar with R&D tax issues. It's not guaranteed you'll get an expert, but your chances are much higher than just calling the main line and hoping for the best.
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Olivia Harris
I have to eat my words about Claimyr. After my skeptical comment, I decided to try it anyway since I was desperate for answers about how Section 174 applies to our contract researchers (not direct employees). I was connected to an IRS representative in 38 minutes - after spending WEEKS trying to get through myself. The agent walked me through exactly how to handle third-party R&D contracts under Section 174 and clarified that we needed to amortize those costs even though they weren't direct labor. She also emailed me specific IRS guidance documents I hadn't been able to find online. Completely worth it and I apologize for doubting. Sometimes it's worth admitting when you're wrong!
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Alexander Zeus
One aspect of Section 174 that often gets overlooked is the territorial issue. If your R&D is performed outside the US, you have to amortize over 15 years instead of 5 years. That's a HUGE difference for multinational companies. And the definition of "outside the US" can get tricky with remote workers. We have engineers in Canada and Mexico, and our tax advisor said those salaries must use the 15-year schedule even though they're working on the same projects as our US team.
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Alicia Stern
•What about hybrid workers who split time between US and international locations? We have several people who work 3 months abroad, 9 months in the US. How would you calculate that?
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Alexander Zeus
•For hybrid workers splitting time between US and international locations, you'd need to track their time and allocate accordingly. For your example of someone working 3 months abroad and 9 months in the US, you'd allocate 25% of their R&D salary to the 15-year amortization schedule (foreign) and 75% to the 5-year schedule (domestic). Documentation is absolutely critical here. Make sure you have systems tracking where work is performed, not just where the employee's home base is. Some companies use IP address logging or formal documentation of work locations to support their allocations in case of audit.
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Gabriel Graham
Does anyone use software to track all this? Our accounting software doesn't seem equipped to handle these complex amortization schedules with different employees on different schedules. We're currently using a mess of spreadsheets and I'm worried we're going to make mistakes.
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Drake
•We use TaxMatrix Pro which has a decent R&D module. It's not perfect but it lets you set up different amortization schedules and track them year over year. The reporting is decent for tax time too.
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