How do I determine cost basis of property I sold when the original purchase price is unknown?
My dad had a stroke recently and now I'm managing all his finances. He was extremely private about money matters and kept terrible records (typical Dad, right?). I ended up selling several of his rental properties this year, but I'm completely lost on how to establish the cost basis for these sales. I literally have no idea when he purchased these properties or what he paid for them originally. This is making it a nightmare to figure out the capital gains tax situation. My father's memory has been severely affected by the stroke, so I can't even ask him about it. Where can I possibly find this information? County records? Old tax returns? I've been stressing about this for weeks and tax time is getting closer. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Eva St. Cyr
You've got a few options to establish cost basis when the original records aren't available. First, check with the county recorder's office where the properties are located - they'll have records of all property transfers including the sales prices. You can also request copies of your father's old tax returns from the IRS using Form 4506 (goes back 7 years) which might show depreciation schedules for rental properties. Sometimes title companies keep records from previous transactions too. If your father used a particular title company for his real estate dealings, they might have information about when he purchased the properties and for how much. If your father had an accountant who helped with his taxes over the years, they might have kept records of the properties including purchase prices and depreciation schedules. Even if you can't find the exact purchase price, you can use a reasonable estimate based on comparable properties in the area at the time of purchase.
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Nathaniel Mikhaylov
AuthorThanks for the suggestions! I hadn't thought about checking with the county recorder's office. Do you know how far back their records typically go? Some of these properties might have been purchased 20+ years ago. Would contacting the IRS be worth it if the properties were purchased more than 7 years ago? And what if my dad didn't keep a depreciation schedule?
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Eva St. Cyr
County records typically go back several decades - many counties have digitized their records, making searches easier. Even for properties purchased 20+ years ago, they should have the transfer information. Getting tax returns from the IRS beyond 7 years can be difficult, but if your father used a tax professional over the years, they might have retained records longer than the IRS. Even without formal depreciation schedules, any tax return showing rental income from these properties would be helpful since they would likely contain some property information. If you absolutely cannot determine the original purchase price, the IRS may allow you to use a reasonable reconstruction method, but you'll need to document your good-faith effort to find the actual records.
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Kristian Bishop
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Kaitlyn Otto
How exactly does this work? I'm in a similar situation with my uncle's estate and trying to figure out properties he bought in the 80s. Do they just look at public records or do they have some special database?
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Axel Far
Sounds interesting but I'm always skeptical of these online services. How accurate are their estimates? Would it stand up to an IRS audit? I've heard horror stories about people getting hit with huge tax bills because they couldn't prove their basis.
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Kristian Bishop
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Axel Far
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Jasmine Hernandez
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Luis Johnson
Wait, you're saying there's a service that waits on hold for you? How does that even work? I spent 3 hours on hold with our county last week and eventually gave up.
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Ellie Kim
This sounds too good to be true. I've been trying to get property records from my county for months. They never answer phones and their online system is from 1995. You're telling me this service actually gets a human on the line? I'll believe it when I see it.
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Jasmine Hernandez
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Ellie Kim
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Fiona Sand
Another option is to check if your father had a relationship with a specific real estate agent over the years. Sometimes agents keep transaction records for decades, especially if they worked with a client on multiple deals. My parents' agent had records going back to the 1990s which was incredibly helpful when we needed to establish basis. Also, if your father had a specific insurance company for these properties, they might have records of when the policies were initiated and the insured value at that time.
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Nathaniel Mikhaylov
AuthorThat's a good idea, though I'm not sure if he used the same agent for all properties. He did have the same insurance company for everything though. Would the insured value typically be close to the purchase price? And would they keep records going back that far?
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Fiona Sand
Insurance values aren't exactly the same as purchase prices, but they can help establish a reasonable range for the property value at the time. Most insurance companies maintain records for 7-10 years, but larger companies often have archives going back much further, especially if the policies have been continuously active. When you contact them, specifically ask for the "policy inception documentation" which would show the initial coverage amount when the policy was first created. This won't give you the exact purchase price, but it provides supporting evidence of approximate value that can help substantiate your cost basis claim to the IRS. Even establishing a conservative estimate is better than having no documentation at all.
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Mohammad Khaled
Has anyone used the "stepped-up basis" approach if the properties were inherited rather than purchased? My mother passed several years ago and my father inherited her half of their rental properties, which gave him a stepped-up basis on that portion.
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Alina Rosenthal
Stepped-up basis only applies if the property was inherited after someone died. From the original post, it sounds like the father purchased these properties himself and still owned them when he had the stroke. The OP is helping manage finances but the father is still alive, so stepped-up basis wouldn't apply yet.
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NebulaKnight
I went through something very similar with my grandmother's properties a few years ago. One thing that really helped was checking if your father had any property management companies handling the rentals. Even if he managed them himself most of the time, he might have used a company during vacations or when he was traveling. Property management companies often keep detailed records including original purchase information since they need it for tax purposes and insurance claims. Also, don't overlook checking with any banks or credit unions your father used for mortgages. Even if the original mortgages were paid off years ago, the lending institutions sometimes retain loan files with purchase price information. If he refinanced any of these properties over the years, those records would definitely contain the original purchase details. One more suggestion - if your father was part of any real estate investment groups or landlord associations, they sometimes maintain member transaction records or can connect you with other investors who might remember details about your father's purchases, especially if they were in the same market area.
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