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How can my non-US resident parents avoid gift taxes when sending me cash from their US bank account?

I'm a US citizen but both my parents live overseas and aren't US residents. They've got around $170K sitting in a US bank account and want to gift me about $135K to help with a down payment on a house I'm planning to buy. I've been doing some research and found out that cash in a US bank account is considered "US situs tangible property" which means if they wire the money directly to my account or to escrow, that would trigger gift tax. I'm also wondering if Form 3520 would apply in this situation - I'm guessing not? Is there any legal way they can transfer this money to me without triggering the gift tax? I really need help with this down payment but don't want them (or me) to end up with a surprise tax bill because we did it wrong.

The good news is there are several options for your parents to consider. When non-US residents give gifts to US persons, different rules apply than for US-to-US gifts. While it's true that US bank accounts owned by non-residents are considered US-situs property, your parents still have a lifetime gift tax exemption of $60,000 (not the higher amount US citizens get). This means each parent could gift you up to $60,000 from their US account without triggering gift tax, plus the annual exclusion amount ($18,000 per donor per recipient for 2025). Another approach: your parents could transfer their money from the US bank to a non-US bank account first, then gift it to you from there. Since the money would no longer be US-situs property, it wouldn't be subject to US gift tax rules for non-residents. Many non-US residents aren't aware that gifts of non-US situs property to US persons generally aren't subject to US gift tax. Regarding Form 3520, you're correct - it wouldn't apply here. That form is for reporting gifts from foreign persons over a certain threshold, but it specifically excludes reporting property already reported on a gift tax return.

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Thanks for this info! If they transfer to a foreign bank account first and then gift, does the money have to stay in the foreign account for a specific time period before being gifted? Or can they literally just move it overseas and then immediately transfer it to me?

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There's no specific required waiting period for the money to stay in the foreign account before being gifted. However, the transaction should be properly documented to show it was genuinely moved outside the US banking system before the gift was made. I'd recommend having clear documentation showing the full sequence: the withdrawal from the US account, the deposit to the foreign account, and then the subsequent gift to you. This creates a clear paper trail showing the money was truly converted to non-US situs property before the gift occurred.

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Another option to consider - your parents could potentially pay your mortgage lender directly for certain qualified expenses. There's an educational and medical expense exemption to the gift tax if payments are made directly to the institution. I know this doesn't apply to the full house payment, but if part of your financial situation involves medical bills or education loans, that portion could potentially be handled separately with no gift tax implications.

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Thanks for this suggestion! I don't have medical bills, but I do have about $25K in student loans remaining. So theoretically they could pay those directly to my loan provider without gift tax implications, and then handle the house down payment separately?

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Exactly! Direct payments to educational institutions, including student loan providers, for tuition or loan repayment are exempt from gift tax regardless of amount. This wouldn't count against their annual or lifetime exemptions at all. So they could pay off your $25K in student loans directly, and then use their combined annual exclusions ($18,000 each for 2025) and part of their lifetime exemptions to cover the house down payment. This approach would maximize the total amount they could give you without triggering any gift tax.

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Everyone's making this way more complicated than it needs to be. The easiest solution is just to have your parents gift you $17K each per year (that's the annual gift tax exclusion for 2024) and you'll avoid the gift tax issue entirely. Yes it'll take a few years to get the full amount but it's the cleanest approach.

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The annual exclusion is actually $18,000 for 2025, but your point is generally right. However, waiting several years doesn't work if OP needs the money now for a house down payment.

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One important detail that hasn't been fully addressed - you mentioned your parents aren't US residents, but are they US citizens? This makes a huge difference in how the gift tax rules apply. If your parents are US citizens living abroad, they're still subject to US gift tax rules and get the full $13.61 million lifetime exemption (for 2024). They could gift you the entire $135K without any gift tax, though they'd need to file Form 709. If they're non-US citizens AND non-residents, then the advice about the $60K lifetime exemption and transferring to foreign accounts first is correct. But I'd strongly recommend getting professional tax advice before moving that much money around, especially since the IRS can be pretty strict about transactions that look like they're designed to avoid gift tax rules. Also, don't forget that even if no gift tax is owed, your parents may still need to file gift tax returns depending on the amounts and structure of the transfers.

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This is such an important distinction that I think gets overlooked a lot! I'm actually dealing with a similar situation where my parents are non-US citizens but have been green card holders for years. It's confusing because even though they're not citizens, their resident status for tax purposes means they get treated differently than true non-residents. @408632c00c2b - StarSurfer, you might want to double-check your parents' exact tax status. Even if they're not citizens, if they've had any US tax obligations in recent years or held green cards, it could change which rules apply to them. The Form 709 requirement is also something to keep in mind - even when no tax is owed, the paperwork requirements can trip people up if they're not prepared for them.

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This is a complex situation that really depends on your parents' exact tax status. From what you've described, if your parents are truly non-US residents and non-US citizens, the strategy of moving the money to a foreign bank account first before gifting is generally sound. However, I'd be very careful about the execution. The IRS has specific rules about transactions designed to avoid gift tax, so you'll want to ensure this is done properly with adequate documentation. The transfer to the foreign account should be a genuine change in the situs of the property, not just a temporary move to circumvent tax rules. A few additional considerations: - Make sure the foreign bank account is in your parents' names and they have legitimate reasons for maintaining foreign accounts - Document everything thoroughly - bank statements, transfer records, gift letters - Consider whether your parents have any US tax filing obligations that might complicate this Given the substantial amount involved ($135K), I'd strongly recommend consulting with a tax professional who specializes in international gift tax issues. The potential penalties for getting this wrong could be significant, and a professional can review your specific facts to ensure you're following the most appropriate strategy. The good news is there are legitimate ways to handle this - you just want to make sure you do it right the first time.

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This is really helpful advice about documentation and getting professional help. I'm curious though - when you mention "legitimate reasons for maintaining foreign accounts," what would qualify as legitimate? My parents actually moved back to their home country a few years ago and have been managing finances there, so would that be sufficient justification for having foreign accounts? Also, regarding the US tax filing obligations - if they haven't filed US taxes since they moved abroad and aren't citizens, would they still have any ongoing obligations that could complicate this gift situation?

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@2ff2c9d98ae1 - Ravi Malhotra, your parents' situation sounds like it would provide legitimate justification for foreign accounts. Having moved back to their home country and managing their finances there establishes a genuine business/personal reason for the accounts beyond just tax avoidance. Regarding US tax obligations, if your parents are non-US citizens who moved abroad and have no US-source income, they likely wouldn't have ongoing US filing requirements. However, there are some nuances - if they had significant US assets or income in recent years, or if they were ever considered US tax residents, there might be lingering obligations. One thing to watch out for: if your parents ever held green cards, they may have had to formally abandon their resident status with Form I-407 or go through the expatriation process. If they didn't properly terminate their US tax residency when they moved abroad, they could still be considered US tax residents, which would completely change the gift tax analysis. @defef4c9b885 - Aisha Patel is absolutely right about getting professional help given the amounts involved. An international tax attorney or CPA could review your parents' complete history and ensure there aren't any hidden complications that could affect the gift tax treatment.

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I've been following this thread closely since I went through almost the exact same situation last year. My parents are non-US citizens living in Japan and wanted to help me with a house purchase here in the US. After consulting with an international tax attorney (which I highly recommend given the amounts involved), we learned that the key is ensuring your parents truly meet the definition of "non-US persons" for gift tax purposes. This means they can't have been US tax residents at any point recently, never held green cards, and have no substantial US tax filing history. We ended up using the foreign account transfer strategy that several people mentioned. My parents moved their money from their US account to their Japanese bank, waited about 6 weeks (though as mentioned earlier, there's no required waiting period), and then gifted it to me from there. The total process took about 2 months but saved us potentially tens of thousands in gift taxes. One thing I wish someone had told me earlier - make sure to get a gift letter from your parents clearly stating the money is a gift and not a loan. Your mortgage lender will likely require this documentation anyway, and it helps establish the proper characterization of the transfer for tax purposes. Also, keep detailed records of the entire process - screenshots of account balances, wire transfer confirmations, and bank statements showing the money's movement. The IRS rarely audits gift transactions, but if they do, having a complete paper trail makes everything much smoother.

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you for sharing your actual experience! The 6-week waiting period you mentioned is interesting - even though there's no legal requirement, it probably helps demonstrate that the transfer wasn't just a quick shuffle to avoid taxes. Your point about the gift letter is spot on too. I hadn't thought about the mortgage lender requirements, but you're right that they'll want clear documentation that this is a gift and not a loan that needs to be repaid. One question about the paper trail - did your attorney recommend any specific language or formatting for documenting the transfers? I want to make sure I'm creating records that will be clear and defensible if there are ever any questions down the road. Also, was there any impact on your parents' Japanese tax obligations when they moved the money between accounts, or did that stay completely separate from the US gift tax considerations?

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