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Anna Stewart

Help! Just got Form 9143 about invalid signature on my 1040

So I just checked my mail and got a letter from the IRS with Form 9143 and they sent back my entire tax return package. The notice says my signature on my Form 1040 is invalid! I'm freaking out a little because I definitely signed it (at least I thought I did properly). They're requesting that I sign it again and send everything back. Has anyone dealt with this before? I'm worried because I filed pretty close to the deadline and now I'm concerned about penalties if this makes me technically late. The letter doesn't mention penalties but it says they can't process my return without a valid signature. I used TurboTax to prepare everything and printed it out to mail because I had some complicated forms this year that I couldn't e-file. I'm almost positive I signed it but maybe I signed in the wrong color ink? Or maybe my signature was too sloppy? Anyone know what constitutes an "invalid" signature to the IRS?

Layla Sanders

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This is actually pretty common and nothing to panic about! The IRS is very particular about signatures, and several things could have happened: You might have signed with a digital/electronic signature instead of a wet signature (actual pen on paper). The IRS requires a handwritten signature on paper returns. You might have used pencil or a color other than black or blue ink, which they don't accept. Your signature might not match what they have on file from previous returns. You might have forgotten to date the signature line. The good news is this is easy to fix! Just sign the form again (with blue or black ink) where indicated, and mail everything back in the envelope they provided. Since you originally filed on time, you shouldn't face any late penalties - they consider your original submission date as your filing date as long as you promptly correct the signature issue.

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Anna Stewart

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Thank you so much for the reassurance! I think I might have used one of those roller gel pens in a lighter color. Maybe that's why they couldn't accept it? One more question - do I need to re-sign and return the entire package they sent back, or just the specific 1040 form with the signature line?

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Layla Sanders

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You're welcome! Yes, a lighter gel pen could definitely be the issue - they need signatures that will photocopier clearly, which is why they prefer dark blue or black ink. You should sign the specific Form 1040 where indicated on the signature line. However, you should return the entire package they sent back to you, not just the signature page. The IRS wants to process your complete return as originally submitted, just with a valid signature.

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Adrian Hughes

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Ian Armstrong

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I had this problem last year! For me it was because I signed my return but my spouse didn't (they asked me to mail it while they were traveling for work and I completely forgot they needed to sign too). Just make sure you sign with a blue or black pen - no pencil, no fancy colors. And make sure the signature matches what they have on file from previous years. Also, don't stress about penalties. As long as you promptly return the signed forms, they'll consider your original submission date as your filing date. Just make sure to use the envelope they provided so it goes to the right department.

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Anna Stewart

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Thanks for sharing your experience! That makes me feel better about not getting hit with penalties. I'm wondering though - the envelope they provided doesn't have any tracking. Would you recommend paying extra to send it with tracking so I have proof they received it?

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Ian Armstrong

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Absolutely use tracking! I learned this the hard way. After I sent back my corrected return, I waited 3 months with no word from the IRS. When I finally got through to someone on the phone, they had no record of receiving my corrected forms. I had to redo everything again and lost a lot of time. USPS Certified Mail with Return Receipt is worth every penny. It's only about $7 total and gives you proof of exactly when they received it and who signed for it. Keep that receipt forever - you might need it if they ever claim they didn't receive your response.

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Eli Butler

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Curious - did anyone else have issues with e-filing? I feel like this whole signature problem could have been avoided if you'd filed electronically. I've been e-filing for years and never had an issue like this.

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Not everyone can e-file. I tried to e-file this year but got rejected because I needed to attach some specific forms that the e-file system doesn't support. Some situations are just too complex for the e-file system to handle.

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Anna Stewart

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I normally do e-file! But this year I had to paper file because I had to submit some additional documentation about a special tax situation. TurboTax told me I couldn't e-file with these attachments. Trust me, I would have much preferred to e-file!

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Dylan Hughes

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I went through this exact same thing last year! Got the dreaded Form 9143 and had a mini panic attack thinking I'd messed up my taxes completely. Turns out I had signed with a purple gel pen (seemed like a good idea at the time, don't ask why πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ). The key things I learned: 1) Use only black or blue ink - no gel pens, no fancy colors, no pencil 2) Make sure your signature looks reasonably similar to previous years 3) Don't forget to date it if there's a date line 4) Send everything back that they returned to you, not just the signature page The good news is this is super common and totally fixable! I was worried about penalties too, but as long as you get it back to them promptly, your original filing date counts. Just make sure to use certified mail with tracking - learned that lesson from the comments above and it's totally worth the extra few dollars for peace of mind. You'll get through this! It's way more stressful than it needs to be, but it's really just a paperwork hiccup.

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Amina Bah

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Purple gel pen! πŸ˜‚ I'm sorry but that actually made me laugh - I can totally see how that seemed like a good idea at the time. Thanks for sharing all those tips, especially about the certified mail. I'm definitely going to do that when I send mine back. It's so reassuring to hear from people who've been through this exact situation. I was spiraling a bit thinking I'd somehow ruined my entire tax return, but it sounds like this is really just a minor paperwork issue that happens all the time. Going to re-sign with a boring black pen and get this sorted out ASAP!

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Sean Murphy

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I'm dealing with a Form 9143 right now too! Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful and reassuring. I was convinced I had completely screwed up my taxes, but it sounds like this is actually pretty routine. My situation is a bit different - I think I might have used a Sharpie marker to sign mine (seemed bold and official at the time, but now I'm realizing that was probably a mistake). The ink was definitely black, but maybe too thick/bold for their scanners? One question for anyone who's been through this - about how long did it take to get confirmation that they received and processed your corrected return? I'm planning to send mine back with certified mail as suggested, but wondering what kind of timeline to expect before I hear back from them. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences! This thread has saved me so much stress and confusion.

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