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Jayden Hill

Has anyone heard of "sovereign citizens" or "tax-exempt status" claimed by certain groups?

Hey everyone, I've been diving into some tax research lately and came across a website that claims there's a special legal tax status that supposedly exempts certain people from paying federal income taxes. The site mentions something about "sovereign citizenship" and claims there are legal loopholes that allow you to become "tax-exempt" by filing specific paperwork. Has anyone come across this kind of thing before? Is this legitimate or one of those tax scams? I'm obviously skeptical but wanted to check with people who might know more about tax law than I do. Thanks!

LordCommander

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This is 100% a scam and could get you in serious trouble with the IRS. These are typically known as "sovereign citizen" or "tax protestor" arguments, and the IRS has a specific publication (Publication 2105) called "The Truth About Frivolous Tax Arguments" that debunks all of these claims. No legal process exists where you can simply declare yourself exempt from federal taxation. The courts have consistently ruled against these arguments for decades. Anyone promoting these schemes is either misinformed or deliberately scamming people. If you file tax returns based on these theories, you could face substantial penalties for filing frivolous returns (up to $5,000 per return), plus penalties for failure to pay taxes, plus interest on unpaid taxes, and potentially even criminal charges for tax evasion.

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Lucy Lam

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But what about the 16th Amendment argument? I've heard people say it wasn't properly ratified and therefore income tax is unconstitutional. Is there any truth to that?

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LordCommander

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The 16th Amendment argument has been thoroughly rejected by every federal court that has examined it. The Supreme Court confirmed the constitutionality of the income tax in numerous cases. The IRS specifically addresses this in their Publication 2105. These arguments might sound convincing on sketchy websites, but they've been tried in court countless times and have a 100% failure rate. People who follow this advice often end up owing substantial back taxes, penalties, and sometimes even serve jail time for tax evasion.

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Aidan Hudson

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Jayden Hill

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That sounds interesting. Does it just analyze tax scams or can it help with legitimate tax questions too? I'm always looking for good resources during tax season.

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Zoe Wang

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How do you know it's giving accurate information? There's so many tax "experts" online who just want to sell you something. Did you verify what it told you?

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Aidan Hudson

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Zoe Wang

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Grace Durand

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Wait, how does this actually work? Does it just keep dialing for you or something? I'm confused how anyone could get you to the "front of the line" with a government agency.

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Steven Adams

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Sounds like a complete scam to me. Nobody can magically get you to the front of an IRS phone queue. They probably just connect you to some fake "agent" who isn't even with the IRS.

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Steven Adams

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Alice Fleming

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My cousin got sucked into one of these "sovereign citizen" tax scams a few years ago. He stopped filing taxes completely because some guru convinced him he was legally exempt. Fast forward three years - he got hit with over $27,000 in back taxes, penalties, and interest. The IRS was NOT sympathetic at all to his "I didn't know it was a scam" defense. These scammers prey on people who want to believe there's some secret loophole, but the courts have rejected these arguments consistently for decades. If it sounds too good to be true, it definitely is when it comes to taxes!

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Hassan Khoury

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What happened to the person selling the scam? Did they face any consequences or are they still out there scamming people?

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Alice Fleming

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The guy selling the scam actually ended up getting sentenced to 5 years in federal prison for tax fraud and for promoting abusive tax schemes. He had been running seminars and selling books about these bogus theories for years. The IRS has a specific division that investigates promoters of these schemes. They take it very seriously because these scams cost the government millions in lost revenue and enforcement costs.

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Does anyone know a good affordable tax professional who can help with regular tax questions? After reading this thread I'm terrified of accidentally following bad advice. I tried using the free software options but my situation is a bit complicated (self-employed with some investment income).

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Benjamin Kim

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Look into the Volunteer Income Tax Assistance (VITA) program. They offer free tax preparation services if your income is below $60,000. I've used them for years and they're staffed by IRS-certified volunteers. Local community colleges often host VITA sites during tax season.

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Ryan Young

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Thanks for posting this question - it's really important that people know about these scams! As a tax professional, I see people fall for these schemes every year and it never ends well. The IRS has actually published a "Dirty Dozen" list of tax scams that they update annually, and sovereign citizen arguments are always on it. These promoters often target people who are genuinely struggling with tax debt or who feel overwhelmed by the tax system. What makes these scams particularly dangerous is that they often mix legitimate-sounding legal language with completely false interpretations of tax law. They'll cite real court cases but completely misrepresent what those cases actually decided. If anyone is dealing with legitimate tax problems, there are actual legal options available - installment agreements, offers in compromise, currently not collectible status, etc. The IRS has hardship programs for people who genuinely can't pay. There's never a need to resort to these bogus "sovereign citizen" theories that will only make your situation worse.

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Ana Rusula

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This is such valuable information! I had no idea the IRS actually published a "Dirty Dozen" list - that sounds like something everyone should know about. Where can people find this list? Also, you mentioned legitimate options like installment agreements and offers in compromise. For someone who might be genuinely struggling with tax debt, what would be the first step to explore these legitimate alternatives instead of falling for these scams?

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