Handling Non-deductible C-corp expenses vs Dividends for tax filing

You're absolutely right to question this. The line between non-deductible expenses and constructive dividends is whether there's a legitimate business purpose, not just whether the expense is deductible. The previous CPA was playing with fire. The IRS specifically looks for C-corps treating personal expenses as business expenses, even if they're adding them back on M-1 adjustments. Those personal expenses (family vacations, tuition, personal meals, etc.) are constructive dividends and should be reported on the owner's 1099-DIV. Company-owned life insurance and certain entertainment that fails the directly-related test can legitimately be non-deductible corporate expenses. But personal expenses are different - they're not corporate expenses at all, they're distributions to the shareholder. If you're audited, the IRS will likely recharacterize those M-1 personal expenses as dividends anyway, potentially triggering penalties and interest for both corporation and shareholder. The proper treatment is either dividends or loans (with proper documentation, reasonable interest, and actual repayment schedule).

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Going back to the original question - there's a practical approach I take with my C-corp clients. I create a written corporate policy about what constitutes business expenses versus personal. Then I have the board formally adopt it. For borderline items (country club dues, certain travel with partial business purpose), I document the specific business purpose for each expense. Anything that can't meet that standard gets treated as either: 1. Additional compensation (if reasonable comp isn't already maxed out) 2. Loan to shareholder (with proper documentation and interest) 3. Dividend (as a last resort) The key is consistency and documentation. Without a system, you're just asking for trouble in an audit.

I think we're overcomplicating this. The rule is simple - if it's personal, it's not a corporate expense, period. It doesn't matter if you call it non-deductible on M-1, it's still a distribution to the shareholder. The only legitimate non-deductible expenses are things that benefit the corporation but aren't deductible under tax law (life insurance premiums, certain penalties, 50% of meals, political contributions, etc). I tell my clients there are only 3 ways to get money out of a C-corp: 1. Salary for services actually rendered 2. Loans (with proper documentation) 3. Dividends Anything else is just dividends in disguise, and the IRS isn't stupid.

This is exactly the kind of situation that drives me crazy as a tax professional. You're absolutely right to push back on the previous accountant's approach. The fundamental test isn't whether an expense is deductible - it's whether the expense has ANY legitimate business purpose. Personal expenses like family vacations and tuition have zero business purpose and should never touch the corporate books, even as M-1 adjustments. I've seen too many practitioners use the M-1 approach as a lazy way to avoid difficult conversations with clients. But you're setting up both yourself and the client for problems down the road. The IRS has gotten much more aggressive about constructive dividend audits, especially with closely-held C-corps. My advice: bite the bullet now and clean this up. Reclassify the personal expenses as dividends (or loans if there's proper documentation and repayment ability). Yes, it'll create some additional tax liability, but it's better than dealing with an IRS audit that could go back multiple years with penalties and interest. The client may not like it initially, but they'll thank you when they're not facing a massive IRS bill later.