HSA Form 8889 Questions - Mid-Year HDHP Start and Contribution Limits?
I switched jobs in May 2023 and got a High Deductible Health Plan (HDHP) through my new employer. It's a really small family business (like seriously old-school - they still do paper checks and barely use computers lol). Since they didn't offer an HSA option, I went ahead and opened my own Fidelity HSA account and contributed the full $3850 for the year (I'm single, under 55). I paid all the contributions myself after-tax from my regular bank account - no employer money involved at all. My plan is to never actually use the HSA for medical expenses and just let it grow as an investment account for retirement. But now I'm wondering - do I still need to file Form 8889 with my taxes? And I just realized I didn't have HDHP coverage for the entire year of 2023, so I think I might have overcontributed? What's my best option here? Is there any way I can still qualify for the full year's contribution limit even though I only had the HDHP for part of 2023? Would not claiming the tax deduction on my W2 income make any difference? Thanks for any help!
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Heather Tyson
Yes, you need to file Form 8889 with your tax return. This form is required whenever you have HSA contributions or distributions, regardless of who made the contributions. About your overcontribution issue - since you didn't have HDHP coverage for the full year, your contribution limit is prorated based on the number of months you had qualifying coverage. For example, if you had coverage from August through December (5 months), your maximum contribution would be 5/12 of $3,850, which is about $1,604. You have a couple options for handling the overcontribution: 1) You can withdraw the excess amount plus any earnings on that portion before your tax filing deadline (including extensions). This withdrawal won't be subject to the 20% penalty, but you'll need to include any earnings in your income. 2) You can leave the excess in your account, but you'll face a 6% excise tax on the excess amount for each year it remains in the account. Regarding getting the full contribution: Unfortunately, HSA contribution limits are strictly based on how many months you had HDHP coverage. Not claiming the tax deduction doesn't change the contribution limits - it's still considered an overcontribution regardless of whether you deduct it.
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Paloma Clark
•Thanks for the detailed explanation! If I withdraw the excess contribution, do I need to calculate exactly how much earnings came from that excess portion? Or is there a simplified way to figure this out? Also, would Fidelity help with this process?
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Heather Tyson
•Yes, you need to calculate the earnings attributable to the excess contribution. Typically, your HSA provider (Fidelity) can help you calculate this amount. They often have a specific process for excess contribution removals and can guide you through it. Contact them directly and explain that you need to remove an excess contribution due to not having HDHP coverage for the full year. For the calculation, they'll determine what portion of the total earnings in your account is attributable to the excess amount, based on the performance of your investments during the time the excess was in the account. After that, they'll issue the appropriate tax forms showing the withdrawal of excess contributions.
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Raul Neal
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Jenna Sloan
•Did it actually give you a template letter to send to your HSA provider? I'm with Fidelity too and wondering if they'd accept something like that. Also, how does the service deal with calculating the earnings portion that needs to be withdrawn along with the excess?
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Christian Burns
•I'm kinda skeptical about these tax services. Couldn't you just call Fidelity directly and have them walk you through the process for free? Why pay for something that your HSA provider would help with anyway?
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Raul Neal
•Yes, it provided a template letter that I could customize with my specific details. Fidelity accepted it without any issues. The template included sections where I needed to specify the excess amount and requested they calculate the associated earnings. The service doesn't calculate the earnings itself since that depends on your specific investment performance and the HSA provider needs to do that calculation. But it did explain exactly what I needed to ask for and how the calculation works. It also showed me how to report everything correctly on my tax return once the withdrawal was completed.
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Jenna Sloan
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Noland Curtis
One option you haven't considered is the "last-month rule" (also called the "full-contribution rule"). If you had HDHP coverage on December 1st, 2023, you can actually contribute the FULL annual limit, BUT you must remain HDHP-eligible for the entire following year (through Dec 31, 2024). This is called the "testing period." If you don't maintain eligibility throughout 2024, the excess contributions will be subject to income tax AND an additional 10% tax penalty. So it's a bit risky if you're not sure about your 2024 health coverage. This would allow you to keep your full $3850 contribution and claim the full deduction, but you need to be confident you'll have HDHP coverage all through 2024.
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Paloma Clark
•I had no idea about this rule! So if I stay on my HDHP through all of 2024, I can keep the full $3850 contribution for 2023, even though I only had coverage starting in May 2023? Do I need to indicate this somehow on my 2023 Form 8889?
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Noland Curtis
•Yes, exactly! If you had HDHP coverage on December 1, 2023, you qualify for the "last-month rule" and can contribute the full $3,850 for 2023 - as long as you maintain HDHP coverage for all of 2024. On Form 8889, you'll need to check the box on line 3 that says "If you, and your spouse if filing jointly, had an HDHP for the entire year, check the box..." This indicates you're using the last-month rule. You would then enter the full-year contribution limit on line 3. Just remember this comes with that testing period requirement - if you don't maintain HDHP coverage through December 31, 2024, you'll have to include the "excess" portion in your income for 2024 plus pay that additional 10% tax.
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Diez Ellis
Quick question about HSAs - I contributed through my employer's payroll deduction throughout 2023. Do I still need to file Form 8889? My tax software isn't prompting me for it even though I have an HSA.
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Heather Tyson
•Yes, you absolutely need to file Form 8889, even with employer payroll deductions. Your tax software might not be prompting you because it doesn't know you have an HSA. You need to specifically tell it that you contributed to an HSA. Look for the section in your tax software about HSAs, health accounts, or tax deductions/credits. Once you indicate you have an HSA, it should generate Form 8889. The form is required for ALL HSA contributions and distributions, regardless of how they were made. Your W-2 should show HSA contributions in box 12 with code W if they were made through payroll.
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