Frustrated with IP PIN Verification Process - Asked to Verify AGAIN After Already Doing It in 2022
Just got off the phone and I'm beyond frustrated. The agent told me that if I never had a problem verifying before then everything should be fine, but this is now the SECOND time they're asking me to verify my identity. I first verified in 2022 when my husband was stationed at Fort Hood, and everything went through completely fine back then. I'm trying to understand what's the point of having an IP PIN if they keep asking for verification? My taxes were already accepted and I even received my federal refund already. How much more verification do they need from a military family that moves every 3 years? To make things worse, she transferred me to another department with a "30 to 60 minute" wait. I stayed on the line for 45 minutes and then it just randomly hung up on me. I'm worried this will delay our state refund which we really need for our upcoming PCS move.
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Ava Hernandez
The IRS verification system is like a faulty security gate - sometimes it lets you through with a nod, other times it wants three forms of ID and a blood sample. What's happening is that the IP PIN system and the Identity Verification process are two separate security measures that don't always talk to each other effectively. Your 2022 verification was likely tied to that specific tax year, and the system might be flagging you again because of your address change (military moves trigger verification flags more often than civilian moves). With tax day approaching in less than 2 weeks, I'd recommend calling back ASAP. The verification team gets absolutely swamped this time of year.
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Isabella Martin
Just to clarify what's happening with the Identity Verification process - the IRS uses a risk-based authentication system that sometimes flags returns even when you have an IP PIN. The PIN protects against fraudulent filing, but the verification process confirms your identity when certain risk factors are detected. Military families with frequent relocations often trigger these verification requirements due to address discrepancies across tax years.
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Elijah Jackson
This explanation is really helpful, thank you. It's reassuring to know this happens to other people too and isn't just targeting us specifically. I'm still frustrated but at least I understand the system better now.
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Sophia Miller
Did you move between the 2022 and 2024 tax years? I had to verify twice when I moved from Georgia to Texas in January 2023. The second verification request came on March 12, 2024, even though I had already verified in April 2022. My tax advocate explained that address changes within 24 months can trigger automatic verification requests.
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Mason Davis
Does anyone know if this happens with APO/FPO addresses too? My husband is getting stationed overseas in August and I'm worried we'll have to go through this all over again next year.
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Mia Rodriguez
I'm worried about what this means for all military families! If we have to verify every time we PCS, that's potentially every 2-3 years we have to deal with this nonsense. That seems like a major oversight in their system!
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Jacob Lewis
Military relocations definitely trigger these verification requirements. Here's what typically happens: 1. You file with a new address 2. The IRS automated system flags the address change 3. The system checks if you've had recent verification (within 3 years) 4. If you've moved across state lines, it often requests new verification 5. This happens regardless of IP PIN status I've been through 4 PCS moves in 8 years and had to verify twice. The best approach is to keep all your verification documents organized and easily accessible.
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Amelia Martinez
I went through this exact same frustration last month! Called the IRS verification line 7 times and kept getting disconnected after waiting 30+ minutes each time. Finally I used Claimyr (https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c) to get through to an agent in about 15 minutes. It saved me hours of redial hell. The agent confirmed my identity over the phone and processed my verification immediately. Worth every penny when you're dealing with a time-sensitive situation like this.
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Ethan Clark
I've heard about services like this before but was always skeptical. Did you really get through that much faster? I've been trying to reach them for days now with no luck. My previous experiences with the IRS phone system have been absolutely terrible.
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Mila Walker
Not the original commenter, but I've used it too. It basically keeps dialing and navigating the phone tree for you until it gets a human, then calls you. Saved me from throwing my phone through a window during peak season last year! š
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Logan Scott
There are free alternatives too. IRS has specific hours when call volume is lower. Try calling right when they open at 7am Eastern. Check irs.gov/help/telephone-assistance for updated hours.
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Chloe Green
I had exactly the same issue with my IP PIN and verification 27 days ago. After being disconnected 3 times and spending exactly 4 hours and 12 minutes on hold over 2 days, I finally got through to an agent who explained everything. The problem was resolved in exactly 8 minutes once I reached the right person. My refund (which had been held up) was released 4 days later and deposited in 6 days. If you're on a tight timeline for your PCS, getting through to an agent ASAP is critical - especially since we're only 13 days from the filing deadline and wait times are getting worse by the day.
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Lucas Adams
I'm not convinced this is normal procedure. Something seems off. IP PINs should prevent this issue. That's their entire purpose. The IRS shouldn't ask for verification twice. Especially after already sending your refund. Could be a phishing attempt. Did you verify the phone number? Was it the official IRS number? Did they ask for personal information?
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Harper Hill
This is unfortunately a known issue with the IRS verification system. I've seen it happen repeatedly with military families. The problem stems from multiple factors: ā¢ The IP PIN system and identity verification are separate systems ā¢ Frequent address changes flag accounts for additional review ā¢ Military moves across state lines trigger verification more frequently ā¢ Systems don't always recognize prior verifications from different addresses ā¢ The IRS budget cuts have reduced their ability to integrate these systems It's frustrating, but it's definitely a legitimate IRS process issue, not a scam.
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Caden Nguyen
I completely understand your frustration. Per Internal Revenue Manual 25.23.2, the IRS is required to verify taxpayer identity when certain risk factors are present, even if you have an IP PIN. Under the Taxpayer First Act Section 2001, they've actually increased verification requirements. As a military spouse who's gone through three PCS moves in five years, I've had to verify twice despite having an IP PIN each time. The verification is annoying but legitimate - and unfortunately common for military families due to our frequent relocations.
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Avery Flores
Happened to me last yr too. IP PIN is basically useless imho. IRS systems don't talk to each other. Left hand doesn't know what right hand is doing. Got my fed refund then got letter saying verify identity. Makes zero sense. Called 6x, got hung up on 5x. When I finally got thru, agent said it happens all the time w/ military families who move a lot. System flags address changes as suspicious even w/ IP PIN. Totally broken system.
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