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Form 5500 Late Filing Penalty Relief Program - timeline for IRS response?

I'm stressing out about the Form 5500 Late Filing Penalty Relief Program submission I just sent in. Has anyone gone through this process before? I submitted my Form 5500-EZ along with Form 14704 and a check for the penalty fee about three weeks ago, but haven't heard anything back yet. I'm wondering how long it typically takes for the IRS to respond or acknowledge that you've been accepted into the relief program. Do they actually send confirmation that your submission was approved, or do they just cash your check and that's how you know everything went through okay? The uncertainty is killing me since we're talking about potentially huge penalties if this doesn't work out. Any experiences would be really appreciated!

The IRS typically processes Form 5500-EZ and Form 14704 submissions for the Penalty Relief Program within 60-90 days, though it can sometimes take longer during busy periods or if there are staffing shortages. In my experience helping clients with this, they don't usually send formal confirmation that you've been accepted into the program. The cashing of your check is generally considered your unofficial confirmation that they've received and processed your submission. If there were issues with your application, they would typically send a notice requesting additional information or explaining why you don't qualify. You can always call the IRS Employee Plans customer service line at 877-829-5500 to check on the status, but be prepared for a long wait time. Make sure you have all your information handy when you call.

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Thanks for the info. Does the IRS ever reject applications for the Penalty Relief Program? If so, do they at least send a rejection letter or something? This is my first time dealing with this and I'm worried since our plan is pretty small but the penalties could be huge.

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The IRS does occasionally reject applications, but it's relatively uncommon if you've properly followed the guidelines for the program. Most rejections happen when the plan doesn't meet eligibility requirements or when the forms are filled out incorrectly. If they do reject your application, they will definitely send you a formal notice explaining the rejection and your options moving forward. They don't just keep your money without giving you an explanation. However, if you meet all the criteria for the program and submitted everything correctly, you should be fine.

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I went through this exact nightmare last year and ended up using taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) to help with my Form 5500 penalty relief situation. I was exactly where you are - submitted everything and was anxiously checking my bank account daily to see if they'd cashed my check. What helped me was uploading my forms to taxr.ai before sending them to the IRS. Their system analyzed everything and pointed out a couple errors I would have completely missed on my Form 14704 (I had calculated the wrong penalty amount and missed checking a required box). After I fixed those issues and resubmitted, I heard back in about 7 weeks with a letter confirming my acceptance into the program. The peace of mind was definitely worth it - knowing my submission was correct before sending it in rather than waiting months just to find out I'd made a mistake.

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I'm curious - does taxr.ai just check for errors or do they provide guidance on how to fix them too? I'm about to submit my forms and now I'm paranoid I've missed something.

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They do both - they highlight potential errors and explain how to fix them. In my case, they pointed out that I had used the wrong calculation method for determining my penalty amount (I used the old sliding scale when I should have used the new fixed amount based on when my filing was due). Their system is actually very secure. They use encryption and don't store your documents permanently. You can also redact certain information before uploading if you're concerned. I just made sure my EIN was visible along with the form data they needed to analyze.

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Just wanted to follow up here. I ended up using taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) before submitting my Form 5500-EZ and Form 14704, and I'm really glad I did. The system identified that I had entered the wrong plan year on my 14704 form, which would have definitely caused delays or rejection. After correcting everything, I submitted to the IRS about 6 weeks ago. They cashed my check last week, and surprisingly, I also received a confirmation letter yesterday stating my submission was accepted into the relief program. So in my case, I did get actual confirmation rather than just the check being cashed. The whole process took about 45 days from submission to confirmation. Definitely worth having that extra review before sending everything in!

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They don't jump you ahead in the queue. They basically use automated technology to wait on hold for you. Their system calls the IRS, navigates the phone tree, and then waits in the queue. When an actual human IRS agent picks up, their system calls your phone and connects you directly to the agent. You don't have to sit there listening to hold music for hours. It's not magic - you're still waiting the same amount of time overall, but you don't have to be the one sitting there on hold. You just get a call when there's actually someone to talk to. Makes a huge difference if you're trying to work or do other things while waiting.

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I take back what I said about Claimyr. After my frustration hit its peak yesterday (4th attempt trying to reach the IRS about my Form 5500 submission), I decided to try the service. I was completely prepared to come back here and expose it as a scam, but I'm honestly shocked. I got a call back in about 90 minutes connecting me to an IRS agent. I confirmed that they received my submission 7 weeks ago and that it was "in process" with no issues flagged. The agent said I should expect written confirmation in another 2-3 weeks. So for anyone wondering about timeline: about 10 weeks total from submission to final confirmation seems to be standard right now. And yes, they do sometimes send actual confirmation letters, not just cash your check.

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Another data point for you - I submitted my late 5500-EZ with Form 14704 in February this year. They cashed my check after about 3 weeks, but I didn't receive any formal confirmation letter. I called the IRS after about 2 months (yes, actually got through!) and they confirmed my submission was accepted and that I was enrolled in the relief program. I think their communication varies depending on their workload and possibly which service center handles your submission. Some people get letters, others just get their checks cashed. As long as they don't send you a rejection notice, you're probably good.

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Thanks for sharing your experience! That makes me feel a bit better. Did they tell you anything specific when you called, or just confirm that it was "accepted"? I'm wondering if there's any particular status I should ask about when I call.

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When I called, they were able to tell me that my submission was "processed and accepted into the program." They also confirmed that the penalty amount I paid was correct and that no additional amounts were due. They didn't have much other information to share - just that the case was essentially closed and I was in compliance. If I were you, I'd specifically ask if your submission is: 1) Received, 2) In process, or 3) Completed/accepted. Also ask if there are any issues or additional information needed. Sometimes they'll tell you if there's a backlog or expected processing time for your particular service center.

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Just FYI - the processing times seem to have gotten longer over the past year. I submitted my forms last May and heard back with an acceptance letter in just under 4 weeks. My buddy submitted his in January this year and it took almost 3 months to get confirmation. I think they're dealing with staffing issues like everyone else. But from what I understand, once they cash your check, it's pretty much a done deal unless there's something seriously wrong with your submission.

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That's a really good point. I've noticed similar slowdowns with almost all IRS correspondence lately. Did your friend get an actual letter, or did he have to call to confirm?

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Don't stress too much about the Form 5500 Relief Program. It's designed to help people get back into compliance without facing the full penalties. As long as you've: 1) Met the eligibility requirements 2) Completed Form 5500-EZ correctly 3) Filled out Form 14704 accurately 4) Included the correct payment Then you should be fine. The IRS created this program specifically because they understand that small plan sponsors sometimes miss filings. They want you to comply and pay the reduced penalty - it's in everyone's interest. Three weeks is definitely too soon to worry. I'd give it at least 8-10 weeks before getting concerned, and even then, it's most likely just processing delays rather than an issue with your submission.

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Mei Liu

I went through this exact same anxiety last year! Submitted my Form 5500-EZ and 14704 in March and didn't hear anything for what felt like forever. My check was cashed after about 5 weeks, and I got an official confirmation letter at around the 9-week mark. The waiting is definitely the worst part, but from everything I've seen, if they cash your check and you don't get a rejection notice, you're almost certainly in the clear. The IRS knows this program exists to help small plan sponsors get compliant, so they're generally pretty accommodating as long as you followed the guidelines. One thing that helped my stress was keeping copies of everything I sent - the forms, the check stub, certified mail receipt, etc. That way if I ever needed to prove I submitted everything properly, I had documentation. But honestly, once that check clears, you can probably breathe easier!

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Ev Luca

I can relate to the stress you're feeling! I went through the same process about 8 months ago when our small business 401(k) filing got delayed due to some payroll complications. From my experience, the timeline seems to vary quite a bit depending on when you submit and how backed up they are. I submitted in August and my check was cashed after about 6 weeks, but I never received a formal confirmation letter. When I called after 10 weeks (took three attempts to get through), the agent confirmed I was accepted into the program and everything was resolved. One thing I learned is that different IRS service centers seem to handle things differently - some send letters, others don't. But the consistent thing everyone told me is that if they cash your check and you don't get a rejection notice within 90 days, you're good to go. The uncertainty is definitely nerve-wracking when you're looking at potentially thousands in penalties, but the program really does work as intended. Hang in there - three weeks is still very early in the process!

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This is really helpful to hear from someone who went through the same situation! The part about different service centers handling things differently makes a lot of sense - that probably explains why some people get letters and others don't. Did the IRS agent give you any specific details when you called, or just confirm that you were accepted? I'm wondering if they can tell you things like when your case was processed or if there were any notes about your submission. Also, three attempts to get through sounds about right from what I'm hearing from others. The phone system seems to be a real challenge these days!

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I completely understand your anxiety - I went through this same situation about 6 months ago with our company's 401(k) plan. The waiting period is absolutely the worst part because you're dealing with potentially significant penalties hanging over your head. From my experience, 3 weeks is still very early in the process. My timeline was: submitted forms in September, check was cashed after 4 weeks, and I received an official acceptance letter at the 7-week mark. But I've heard of others waiting 10-12 weeks, especially during busy periods. The key thing to remember is that the Late Filing Penalty Relief Program exists specifically to help small plan sponsors get back into compliance without facing the full penalty amounts. The IRS wants you to succeed in this program - it's better for them to collect the reduced penalty and have you compliant than to pursue the much larger penalties that many small businesses simply can't afford to pay. If you followed the instructions correctly and included all required documentation with the proper payment amount, you should be fine. The fact that they haven't sent any rejection or request for additional information is actually a good sign. Keep checking to see if your check has been cashed - that's usually the first indication that your submission is being processed normally. Hang in there! The uncertainty is brutal, but most people who properly submit get accepted into the program.

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Thank you so much for sharing your timeline - hearing from someone who actually received an acceptance letter is really reassuring! I'm curious about the letter you got - did it have any specific details about your case or was it just a standard confirmation that you were accepted into the relief program? Also, when you say "followed the instructions correctly," were there any particular areas of the forms that you found tricky or that you double-checked before submitting? I keep second-guessing whether I calculated the penalty amount right on Form 14704, even though I followed the instructions multiple times. The waiting really is brutal when you're looking at potentially huge penalties if something goes wrong. It's good to know that 3 weeks is still early - I was starting to worry that I should have heard something by now!

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