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Zoe Papanikolaou

Hit with a $10,000 IRS penalty for missing form 3250-A (Return of Foreign Trust) - help!

I'm completely freaking out right now. Just got slapped with a $10,000 penalty from the IRS for supposedly not submitting my form 3250-A (Return of Foreign Trust). Here's the thing though - I definitely completed this form and gave it to my company's tax team to submit on my behalf. I even have written confirmation that they would handle it for me! Now I'm stuck with this massive fine and I don't know what happened. Either my company's tax people never sent it, it got lost in transit, or the IRS misplaced it on their end. I'm trying to figure out if the IRS will consider this a reasonable explanation to contest the penalty. I've heard rumors that they don't really care about who's at fault - just that they didn't receive the form. Regardless, I'm the one stuck with this penalty. My company's tax department claims they have proof the 3250 and 3250-A forms were sent to the IRS and they're drafting a response letter. The front of the notice specifically states the 3250-A wasn't received, but the back mentions something about "incorrect or incomplete information" - not sure if that's just standard language they include on all notices. I've asked our tax team to double-check their copy of my 3250-A for any possible errors while we wait for the IRS response. Has anyone dealt with this situation before? What are my chances of getting this penalty abated? I'm seriously stressed about this $10,000 hanging over my head.

Jamal Wilson

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This is definitely a stressful situation, but don't panic just yet. The IRS does have reasonable cause exceptions for penalties, especially when you can demonstrate you took appropriate steps to comply. Since you have written confirmation that your company's tax department would handle filing the form, and they claim to have proof of submission, you're in a good position to contest this. The IRS understands that documents can get lost in processing - it happens more often than you'd think. Make sure your tax department provides you with the proof of mailing (certified mail receipt or delivery confirmation). When responding to the IRS, include a detailed timeline of events, copies of your correspondence with the tax department, and the proof of mailing. Request penalty abatement under "reasonable cause" provisions. The back of the notice mentioning "incorrect or incomplete information" is likely standard language - they include various potential reasons for the penalty. Focus on addressing the specific issue cited on the front (non-receipt of Form 3250-A).

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Mei Lin

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If the tax department sent it regular mail instead of certified mail with return receipt, would that hurt OP's case for reasonable cause? I always hear you should send important tax docs certified but most companies don't bother.

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Jamal Wilson

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While certified mail with return receipt provides the strongest evidence, the IRS will still consider other proof of mailing. If the company has a mail log, affidavit from the person who mailed it, or established mailing procedures they followed, these can support the reasonable cause argument. Having documentation that shows you completed the form and entrusted it to qualified professionals who had agreed to file it also strengthens your position. The IRS recognizes that taxpayers often rely on professionals, which can be a basis for penalty relief.

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Sofia Morales

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If your tax attorneys have proof the forms were sent, you should be fine eventually, but prepare for a long battle. The IRS is notorious for losing documents, even when they're delivered with signature confirmation. I had a similar situation with a different form last year. What worked for me was having my tax professional send a formal protest letter with: 1) A copy of the original form that was submitted 2) Proof of mailing (USPS tracking showing delivery) 3) A formal request for abatement citing "reasonable cause" 4) Reference to Internal Revenue Manual 20.1.1.3.2 which covers reasonable cause criteria The penalty was eventually removed but it took almost 7 months of back and forth. Be prepared to be patient and keep meticulous records of all communications. And NEVER talk to the IRS directly without your tax attorney present.

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Dmitry Popov

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Is the process any different if the form was actually incomplete rather than just lost? The back of OP's notice mentions incorrect information. My situation is similar but I'm pretty sure I messed up a section of my foreign trust reporting.

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Sofia Morales

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For incomplete forms, the process is more complicated. The IRS is much less forgiving about errors than they are about delivery issues. If you knowingly submitted an incomplete form, you'll have a harder time proving reasonable cause. Your best option would be to immediately file a complete and correct form, then request abatement based on making a good faith attempt to comply, especially if this is your first time dealing with this form. Emphasize any complexity or confusion in the instructions that led to the error. If you relied on professional advice that resulted in the incomplete filing, that can also support reasonable cause.

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Ava Garcia

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Check if your company's tax lawyers sent it certified mail with return receipt! If they did and have that receipt, your case is much stronger. The Form 3250-A penalties are insanely harsh but the IRS is actually reasonable about abating them when you can prove you attempted to comply. Also, ask your tax attorneys if they included a Form 843 (Claim for Refund and Request for Abatement) with their response to the IRS. That's the official form for requesting penalty abatement and is crucial for getting this resolved properly. One last thing - if this drags on, keep an eye on the collection deadline. The IRS can be slow processing abatement requests but quick to send accounts to collections. Make sure your attorneys request a formal collection hold while your case is being reviewed.

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StarSailor}

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I made this exact mistake - didn't request a collection hold. Even with my abatement request under review, they sent me to collections and I had to deal with a whole separate department. Definitely make sure they formally pause collections while this is being sorted out!

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