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Freya Thomsen

For a CSF-1099R, if box 2a says $0, how do I report taxable amount on return?

Hey everyone, I just received my CSF-1099R form from my old government job and I'm really confused. Box 2a shows $0 as the taxable amount, but there's a decent amount in Box 1 (about $28,500). This was from a withdrawal I took last year when I left that position. Is the $0 in box 2a correct? Do I still need to report this on my taxes? The distribution code in Box 7 is "7", if that helps. I've been using TurboTax but I'm not sure if I'm entering this correctly. Any help would be appreciated!

Omar Fawaz

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The $0 in Box 2a means the payer (your former employer) is indicating none of the distribution is taxable. Code 7 in Box 7 typically means a normal distribution with no known exceptions. However, this seems inconsistent since normal distributions are usually taxable. This could mean a few things: 1) The distribution might be from after-tax contributions you made, 2) It could be a qualified rollover that wasn't properly coded, or 3) There might be an error on the form. Look at Box 4 to see if any federal tax was withheld. Also check if Box 2b "Taxable amount not determined" is checked - this would explain why 2a shows $0.

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Chloe Martin

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But wouldn't Code 7 mean it's taxable? I thought Code G was for rollovers? I got a similar form but mine has Box 2b checked and I'm totally lost about what to do.

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Omar Fawaz

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You're right that Code 7 typically indicates a taxable distribution. That's why the $0 in Box 2a seems inconsistent with the Code 7. If you have Box 2b checked, it means the payer didn't determine the taxable amount, so it's your responsibility to determine it based on your situation. For rollovers, Code G would be correct, but sometimes forms get miscoded. If you did a direct rollover to another qualified plan or IRA within 60 days, it would be non-taxable regardless of the code used.

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Luca Esposito

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I work at an accounting firm and see CSF-1099R confusion all the time. When Box 2a is $0 but Code 7 is used, look at whether Box 2b is checked. If "Taxable amount not determined" is checked, the payer is basically saying "we don't know your tax basis, so we're putting $0 and you need to figure it out." You'll need to calculate how much of the distribution is actually taxable based on your contribution history. If you made after-tax contributions, those amounts come out tax-free. Keep in mind that earnings on those contributions are still taxable. Form 8606 is your friend here - use it to track non-deductible contributions and calculate the taxable portion.

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Freya Thomsen

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Thanks for this detailed explanation! So if Box 2b is checked (which it is), I need to look back at my contribution history? Is there an easy way to know if my contributions were pre-tax or after-tax? I honestly don't remember since I was at this job 8 years ago.

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Luca Esposito

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Yes, if Box 2b is checked, you need to determine the taxable amount yourself. To know if your contributions were pre-tax or after-tax, check your old pay stubs if you have them - pre-tax contributions would have reduced your taxable wages at the time. Another way is to contact your former employer's benefits department - they should have records of whether your plan allowed after-tax contributions and if you made any. If you can't determine this, unfortunately the safest approach is to treat the distribution as fully taxable, though that may result in paying more tax than necessary.

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Nia Thompson

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I just wanted to add - watch out for state tax implications too! I had a CSF-1099R with $0 in Box 2a, and while it was correct for federal purposes (after-tax contributions), my state didn't recognize the federal treatment. I had to add back some of it on my state return. The treatment varies by state, so check your state's rules specifically regarding pension and retirement distributions.

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This is such a good point! I messed up my state taxes last year because of this exact issue. My state required me to report the CSF-1099R differently than federal. Ended up having to file an amended state return.

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