Filing jointly when spouse owes taxes and I get a refund - will they offset each other?
I've been trying to figure this out but can't find a straight answer online. Everything I read seems to focus on if someone owes back taxes from previous years, which isn't our situation. My husband gets paid as a tutor and doesn't have taxes withheld - he pays what he owes at the end of the year. I always get a refund of about $1200 from my job. If we file jointly this year, will my refund just cancel out what he owes? Or do we still file separate calculations and pay/receive separately? I'm trying to figure out if filing jointly is better for us overall. Also, how should we report his tutoring income? He's not technically self-employed (works directly for families). If we report it as self-employment, the additional self-employment taxes seem really high. In the past I've only filed for myself which was always super simple, but now I'm confused about the best approach with our different situations.
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Keisha Taylor
When you file jointly, the IRS looks at your combined tax situation as one unit, not as separate people. So yes, your refund would offset what your husband owes. The IRS will take the total tax owed based on your combined income, subtract what's already been paid through withholding or estimated payments, and either refund you the difference or bill you for what's still owed. As for your husband's tutoring work, if he's being paid directly by families with no taxes withheld, the IRS would generally consider this self-employment income. This means he would need to pay both income tax and self-employment tax (which covers Social Security and Medicare). The self-employment tax is about 15.3% which is why it seems high - it's covering both the employee and employer portions of these taxes.
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StardustSeeker
•So if my spouse would owe $900 and I would get a $1200 refund, we'd just get a $300 refund? Also, is there any way to avoid the self-employment tax if he's just tutoring a few kids? It seems crazy to pay so much extra when he's not running a business.
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Keisha Taylor
•Yes, exactly. If your calculations show he would owe $900 and you would get a $1200 refund filing separately, then filing jointly would result in approximately a $300 refund (assuming all other factors remain the same). Unfortunately, there's not really a way to avoid self-employment tax on tutoring income if he's being paid directly by families. The IRS considers this self-employment income regardless of whether he considers himself as running a business. However, he can deduct business expenses like mileage to tutoring locations, supplies, or books used for tutoring, which can help reduce the self-employment income subject to tax.
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Paolo Marino
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Amina Bah
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Oliver Becker
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Paolo Marino
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Oliver Becker
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Natasha Petrova
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Javier Hernandez
•How does this actually work? Do they somehow have a special line to the IRS or something? I've never been able to get through no matter what time of day I call.
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Emma Davis
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Natasha Petrova
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Emma Davis
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LunarLegend
One thing nobody's mentioned - make sure to consider whether filing jointly will affect your student loan payments if either of you are on an income-based repayment plan! My wife and I file separately even though we'd save on taxes by filing jointly because her student loan payments would increase by more than the tax savings if we filed together.
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Malik Jackson
•Omg this is so important! We learned this the hard way last year. Saved $600 on taxes by filing jointly but my wife's student loan payment went up $175/month. Do the math before you decide!
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LunarLegend
•You're absolutely right about doing the full calculation. A lot of people miss this part of the equation. The student loan impact can completely change what looks like a good decision based solely on taxes. In our case, filing separately costs us about $800 more in taxes each year, but saves my wife nearly $2,400 annually on her income-based student loan payments. That's a net benefit of $1,600 by filing separately, even though it looks worse on paper tax-wise.
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Isabella Oliveira
Has anyone actually checked if your wife should be classified as a household employee (like a nanny) instead of self-employed? The IRS has specific rules about this and it can make a BIG difference in taxes.
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Ravi Patel
•This is a really good point. If your spouse is tutoring in people's homes on a regular schedule and they control when and how the work is done, they might qualify as a household employee. This means the family should be paying half of the Social Security and Medicare taxes instead of your spouse covering it all through self-employment tax.
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