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Emma Swift

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Tax preparer here. Just to clarify some confusion in this thread: The IRS split the 1099 forms starting with tax year 2020. Before that, nonemployee compensation was reported in Box 7 of 1099-MISC. Now: 1099-NEC: Used ONLY for nonemployee compensation (payments to contractors, freelancers, self-employed individuals, etc.) 1099-MISC: Now used for rents, royalties, prizes, awards, medical payments, etc. Your $6,500 payment is correctly reported on 1099-NEC, as it's considered compensation related to your work relationship, even though you hadn't started yet. The company was wrong to promise a 1099-MISC - probably someone there wasn't up to date on the changes.

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Ella Lewis

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Thank you for this detailed explanation! So even though the payment wasn't for actual work performed, but more like a "holding fee" for the delayed start date, it still counts as nonemployee compensation? And I just report it as regular income on my Schedule C?

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Emma Swift

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Yes, exactly. The IRS considers this type of payment to be nonemployee compensation because it's directly related to your business relationship with the company, even if you didn't perform specific services during that time. You'll report it on Schedule C as self-employment income, which means you'll also need to pay self-employment tax (Social Security and Medicare) on it. The entire $6,500 is reportable as gross income, and you may be able to deduct any legitimate business expenses that were related to this income.

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The company probably told you MISC because a lot of payroll people haven't caught up with the changes from 2020. I work in accounting and you wouldn't believe how many people still think nonemployee compensation goes on the MISC form. Your company actually did it right by issuing the NEC! The IRS made this change to separate out the different types of payments and make reporting clearer.

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Jayden Hill

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This happened to me too! My company's accounting department kept saying they'd send a 1099-MISC but sent the NEC. When I called them they explained they just use "1099-MISC" as a generic term for all 1099 forms out of habit.

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Rhett Bowman

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you might wanna look into the qualified business income deduction (QBI) too. it lets you deduct up to 20% of your net business income if you qualify!! i missed this my first year of freelancing and probably left like $1500 on the table 😭

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The QBI deduction is awesome but it gets complicated fast. Doesn't it phase out at certain income levels? And aren't there restrictions for certain types of service businesses?

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Daniel White

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Everybody's giving you good advice about the schedule C stuff, but don't forget to look into business liability insurance too if you're doing design work for clients. It's tax deductible and could save your butt if a client ever sues you over something you designed. Learned this the hard way šŸ¤¦ā€ā™€ļø

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Lilly Curtis

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The worst part of tax work that recruiters never understand: the crazy mismatch between skills needed and compensation. We're expected to: - Master extremely complex and constantly changing laws - Have perfect attention to detail - Work insane hours - Deal with high-pressure deadlines - Manage difficult clients - Stay current with continuing education And yet compensation is often way below what you'd make in corporate finance or law with similar stress/hours. The best tax recruiters understand this disconnect and find roles that actually value these skills appropriately.

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This is super helpful! Do you think there are specific industry sectors or company types that tend to value tax expertise better than others? Are there particular red flags you look for when considering a new position?

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Lilly Curtis

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Financial services (banking, insurance, investment firms) and large multinational tech companies typically pay the best for tax roles. They understand that good tax planning directly impacts their bottom line. Red flags include job descriptions requiring expertise in too many different tax areas (domestic, international, state/local, etc.) without appropriate compensation. Also beware of positions where you're the only tax person at the company - you'll end up doing everything from payroll tax to international structuring without support. Watch out for companies that treat tax as purely a compliance function rather than a strategic department. And always ask about technology investment - nothing worse than being stuck with Excel spreadsheets for complex tax work because leadership won't invest in proper tools.

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Leo Simmons

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If you want to be a good tax recruiter, understand that most tax pros aren't just looking for higher pay. We want: - Realistic expectations about what one person can handle - Clear boundaries between work and personal life - Modern technology and resources - Leadership that understands tax isn't just about filing forms - Teams that collaborate rather than create silos - Recognition that tax planning is valuable, not just compliance I left a job paying $30k more because they violated all these points. Finding someone who understands these issues would make you stand out from every other recruiter who just asks "what's your salary requirement?

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Lindsey Fry

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This! I switched to a lower-paying role because my new company offers true flexibility (not just "flexible if you get your work done" which always means 60+ hour weeks anyway). Having actual control over my schedule and being able to work remotely most days has been life-changing for my mental health.

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Demi Lagos

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Another tip to avoid needing refund advances: adjust your W-4 withholding at work to get more money in each paycheck throughout the year instead of a big refund at tax time. Technically, a large refund means you gave the government an interest-free loan of YOUR money all year. I updated my withholdings last February and started getting about $175 more in each biweekly paycheck. That's money I can use throughout the year instead of waiting for a lump sum refund. Then I set up automatic transfers of $100 per paycheck to a savings account, so I still have a "forced" savings plan but with ME controlling the money.

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Mason Lopez

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But isn't getting a big refund a good way to save? I know I'd probably just spend that extra money in each paycheck if I adjusted my withholding.

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Demi Lagos

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I totally understand that concern - many people do use tax refunds as a forced savings method. If you struggle with saving, you might want to try setting up automatic transfers on payday so the money goes directly to savings before you can spend it. The disadvantage of using tax refunds as savings is that you can't access YOUR money during emergencies throughout the year, which is exactly when many people end up taking out predatory refund advance loans or other high-interest debt. Having savings you control gives you more financial flexibility without paying those high fees.

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Vera Visnjic

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Anyone used those tax prep services that advertise "no fee refund advances" at the big chain places? I saw one offering advances up to $3500 with "no fees" and I'm wondering if it's actually legit or if there's hidden costs.

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I used one of those "no fee" advance services last year at a major tax chain. While technically there wasn't a specific "fee" for the advance itself, they charged me $395 for tax preparation for a very simple return that should have cost about $150. When I questioned it, they said the higher prep fee was "standard" but I'm pretty sure it was inflated to cover the "free" advance. Plus, they gave me the advance on their prepaid debit card which had all kinds of usage fees. I ended up paying about $30 in ATM and transaction fees before I used up the advance amount.

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Just gonna share my experience - I was in a similar situation owing about $3800 to my state while the feds owed me about $6200 over multiple years. I ended up hiring a CPA who specialized in tax resolution. Cost me about $600 but he sorted everything out in about 2 months. Turns out the state had been reporting an inflated debt amount to the Treasury Offset Program because they weren't properly accounting for penalties and interest. My actual debt was only about $2900 after he got them to review everything. And some of my federal refunds had gone into a holding account because of an identity verification issue that I didn't even know about! Sometimes having a professional who knows how to navigate the system and who to call can save you years of frustration.

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Honorah King

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Did the CPA help you recover the excess refunds that should have been returned to you? I'm in a similar situation and wondering if paying for professional help is worth it.

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Yes, that was the best part! The CPA was able to prove that the state had received about $1300 more than I actually owed once all the calculations were corrected. It took some back and forth, but the state eventually issued me a refund for the excess amount they had received through the offset program. As for whether it's worth hiring someone - in my case, absolutely. I had been trying to sort this out on my own for almost two years with no progress. The CPA had contacts and knew exactly what forms to file and what to say to get action. The $600 I paid saved me countless hours of frustration and helped me recover $1300 I wouldn't have otherwise received, plus got my future refunds flowing again. Sometimes you need someone who speaks their language.

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Oliver Brown

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Has anyone tried calling the Treasury Offset Program directly? There's a specific number for them (1-800-304-3107) where you can get information about your offsets without having to go through the IRS. You need your Social Security number, but they can tell you which agency has received your refunds and how much. I owed state taxes and child support, and my refunds were being split between the two. Once I called this number, I at least knew exactly what was happening, even if I didn't like the answer!

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Mary Bates

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I tried this number and it works! It's an automated system that tells you if you have offsets, the type of offset (state tax, child support, student loans, etc.), and the amount. It doesn't give you super detailed info, but at least confirms if your refunds are being redirected.

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Oliver Brown

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Glad it helped! Yeah, it's not a full solution but at least it gives you confirmation about whether offsets are happening. Sometimes just knowing for sure is half the battle, especially when you can't get anyone on the phone to explain things.

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