Filing US Taxes When Living Overseas After Being a Resident Alien
Hey everyone, I lived in the US from 2015 to August 2023 on an F-1 student visa (never had a green card), so I was considered a resident alien for tax purposes. I've been living in Japan since then, but I still have some financial connections to the US - a couple bank accounts earning interest, some dividend-paying stocks, and I made some profits selling shares last year. From what I can tell, I probably need to file US taxes for 2025 even though I don't live there anymore. I'm confused about which forms I need to complete. Do I have to file both federal and state returns? I wasn't living in any particular state during 2024 and I'm not a green card holder. Also, was I supposed to tell the IRS when I left the US? I didn't do anything special notification-wise when I moved back to Japan, and now I'm wondering if I missed something important. Thanks for any advice!
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Andre Dupont
Your situation is pretty common! As a former resident alien with US income sources, you'll likely need to file a US tax return. The key form would be Form 1040-NR (Nonresident Alien Income Tax Return) rather than the standard 1040 since you're now considered a nonresident alien. For your US-sourced income (interest, dividends, and stock profits), these would be reportable on your US return. The taxation depends on tax treaties between the US and Japan, so you should check if there's a tax treaty that might reduce your US tax obligations. Regarding state taxes, generally you wouldn't need to file a state return if you didn't live or earn income in a specific state during the tax year. However, if you did have income sourced from a particular state, you might need to file there. As for notifying the IRS about leaving, there's no specific requirement to notify the IRS when you depart the US. However, some aliens might need to file Form 1040-C (Departing Alien Income Tax Return) or get a "sailing permit" before leaving, but this isn't always enforced or required for everyone.
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Zoe Papanikolaou
•Thanks for this info! I'm in a similar situation but with UK instead of Japan. You mentioned Form 1040-NR - does that replace Form 8833 for treaty positions? And what about FBAR filing if I still have US accounts but live overseas?
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Andre Dupont
•Form 1040-NR is your main tax return form, while Form 8833 is specifically for claiming treaty benefits. If you're claiming benefits under the US-UK tax treaty, you might need to file both - the 1040-NR as your primary return and Form 8833 to explain which treaty benefits you're claiming. For FBAR (Report of Foreign Bank and Financial Accounts), that's actually the reverse situation - it's for reporting foreign accounts to the US government. Since you're talking about US accounts while living abroad, those aren't considered "foreign" from the US perspective, so FBAR wouldn't apply to those accounts.
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Fatima Al-Suwaidi
Don't forget about Form 8833 (Treaty-Based Return Position Disclosure) if you're going to claim any benefits under a tax treaty between the US and your current country! I missed this when I first filed as a nonresident and ended up having to amend my return. Also, check if you need Form 8854 if you've given up your green card or citizenship. Doesn't sound like your case, but mentioning for others.
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Dylan Cooper
•Is Form 8833 required for every tax treaty benefit? I thought there were some exceptions where you don't need to file it even if you're claiming treaty benefits?
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Fatima Al-Suwaidi
•You're right - there are some exceptions. You generally don't need Form 8833 for personal services income under $10,000, or for claiming reduced withholding rates on dividends, interest, royalties, etc. The IRS has a list of exceptions in the instructions for the form. There are also some "general benefits" from treaties that don't require the form. It's the more specific or unusual treaty positions that need disclosure with Form 8833.
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Sofia Morales
Has anybody dealt with the Foreign Tax Credit (Form 1116) in this situation? I'm still confused about whether I can claim credit for taxes paid to my new country against my US-sourced income on Form 1040-NR.
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StarSailor
•From my experience, on Form 1040-NR you can only claim foreign tax credits against income that's considered effectively connected with a US trade or business. For regular passive income like dividends and interest, you usually can't use Form 1116 to offset those taxes on a 1040-NR.
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