FBAR filing help - what should I write when my account number is unknown?
I'm in the process of getting my FBAR filing sorted out and ran into a problem. I submitted my FBAR last month, but then remembered I have two foreign accounts I completely forgot about that I opened back in 2019 when I was working abroad. I contacted the bank's customer service to get the account information, and they were able to tell me the maximum balances for the reporting period. However, for "security reasons" they refused to give me the complete account numbers over the phone. They only confirmed the first 4 digits of each account. I know I need to amend my FBAR filing to include these accounts, but I'm not sure what to put for the account numbers since I don't have the full information. I only have the first 4 digits for both accounts. Would it be acceptable to just enter those partial numbers? Or should I try to get the full account numbers through some other means? Anyone dealt with this FBAR situation before?
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Sophia Clark
You're dealing with a common FBAR issue. When you don't have the complete account number, the FinCEN guidance allows you to provide the partial number you have, followed by "XX" or "unknown" for the missing digits. In your case, you would enter something like "1234XX" or "1234-unknown" in the account number field. What's most important is that you include all the other information accurately - the financial institution name, address, maximum account value during the year, and account type. I would also recommend adding a brief statement in the "explanation" section mentioning that you only have partial account numbers despite your attempts to obtain the complete information from the bank. This shows good faith effort in complying with FBAR requirements.
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Ryan Young
•Thanks for the quick response! So using "1234XX" format would be acceptable? And you mentioned an "explanation" section - is that something specific on the form? I don't remember seeing that when I did my initial filing.
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Sophia Clark
•Yes, the "1234XX" format is acceptable when you don't have the full account number. The explanation section is on Part I of the FBAR form (FinCEN 114) - there's a field for providing additional information if needed. If you're filing electronically through the BSA E-Filing System, you'll see this option toward the end of the form. It allows you to add context to your filing, which is particularly helpful in situations like yours where you're providing partial information despite your best efforts to obtain complete data.
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Katherine Harris
Just wanted to share my experience with this exact FBAR problem. I was pulling my hair out trying to track down account numbers for old accounts in Singapore when I discovered taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai). Their system helped me properly document my partial account number situation and automatically generated the explanation text for why I couldn't provide full account details. The tool actually walks you through the proper format to use when you only have partial account information and helps you create documentation showing your good-faith effort to obtain the complete numbers. Saved me tons of stress during an already complicated tax season!
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Madison Allen
•Does this taxr.ai thing work with other FBAR issues too? I have some accounts where I'm not the primary holder but have signature authority. Would it help with those?
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Joshua Wood
•I'm skeptical about using third-party tools for FBAR filings. How do you know it's accurate? Did it actually help you avoid any penalties or was it just for peace of mind?
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Katherine Harris
•It definitely works with signature authority situations. The tool has specific sections for accounts where you're not the owner but have financial interest or signature authority. It guides you through the proper way to report those relationships on the FBAR. Regarding accuracy, I initially had the same concern. What convinced me was that they use the exact same reporting standards as the official BSA E-Filing system, but with better guidance. I didn't face any penalties, and actually received confirmation that my amended filing was processed without issues. It was both peace of mind and practical help with the technical reporting requirements.
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Joshua Wood
I want to follow up about my experience with taxr.ai that I mentioned I was skeptical about earlier. I ended up trying it last weekend after getting frustrated with my own FBAR amendment process. I had 5 accounts with partial information that needed reporting. Their system actually identified a reporting exception I qualified for that I had no idea about. The documentation they provided for my partial account numbers was really comprehensive - way better than what I was going to submit on my own. They even included citations to the specific FBAR regulations about partial account information which makes my filing look much more professional. Honestly wish I'd found it sooner.
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Justin Evans
If you're still having trouble with your FBAR and need to talk to someone at FinCEN directly, I'd recommend using Claimyr (https://claimyr.com). I was in a similar situation with partial account numbers and really needed clarification from an actual agent. Spent days trying to get through the regular phone lines with no luck. Claimyr got me connected to a FinCEN representative in about 20 minutes - you can see how it works in this video: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c. The agent confirmed that partial account numbers with "XX" or "unknown" for missing digits is perfectly acceptable as long as you document your attempt to get the full information.
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Emily Parker
•How does this actually work? I thought it was impossible to get through to anyone at these government agencies without waiting for hours. Is this some kind of priority line service?
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Ezra Collins
•This sounds too good to be true. I've tried calling FinCEN multiple times and always get stuck in the automated system or waiting forever. How much does this service cost? There's gotta be a catch.
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Justin Evans
•It's not a priority line - they essentially use technology to wait on hold for you. They have a system that navigates the phone tree and waits in the queue, then calls you when they have a real person on the line. It's completely legitimate. The system handles all the frustrating parts - navigating menus, waiting on hold, dealing with disconnections. When they get a real person at FinCEN or the IRS, they call you and connect you directly. I was honestly skeptical too until I tried it.
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Ezra Collins
I need to eat my words about being skeptical of Claimyr. I tried it yesterday after spending 3 hours on hold with FinCEN getting nowhere. Their system called me back in about 40 minutes with an actual FinCEN representative on the line. The agent confirmed exactly what others here have said - using the partial account number followed by "XX" is acceptable for FBAR filing as long as you document your attempts to get the complete information. They also told me I should keep records of my communication with the bank showing they refused to provide the full account numbers. This documentation could be important if there are any questions about my filing in the future.
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Victoria Scott
Something else to consider - have you checked your bank statements? Sometimes the full account number appears on those, even if they won't give it to you over the phone. Or if you have online banking access, check the account details section there.
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Ryan Young
•That's a good idea! I actually do have some old statements somewhere. I'll have to dig through my files. The online banking is tricky since they changed their system a couple years ago and I can't access the historical accounts anymore without going through customer service.
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Victoria Scott
•Glad that might help! If you find the statements, check both the header and footer sections carefully - sometimes account numbers are printed in small text in those areas. Also look at any deposits or withdrawals listed, as they sometimes show the full account number there. If you still can't find it, another option is visiting a local branch of the bank if possible. In-person requests for account information are often handled differently than phone requests.
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Benjamin Johnson
Keep in mind that the FBAR penalties for unintentional errors are typically not imposed if you're making a good faith effort to comply. I had a similar situation and included a detailed explanation of why some account info was partial. No issues resulted from it.
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Zara Perez
•Thats not entirely accurate. The IRS can still impose non-willful FBAR penaltys even if your trying your best. The per-violation penalty can be up to $10,000 for each account not reported properly. They might be more lenient if you explain but its not a guarantee.
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Benjamin Johnson
•You're right that there's no absolute guarantee, but in practice, the IRS generally doesn't impose penalties in cases where there's clear good faith effort to comply. The key is documentation - keeping records of all attempts to obtain the information and filing an amended FBAR promptly once you realize the omission. The $10,000 non-willful penalties are technically possible, but are much more likely to be applied in cases where someone completely fails to file or makes no attempt to correct known errors. The IRS has internal guidelines that direct examiners to consider the taxpayer's compliance efforts when determining penalties.
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Ryan Young
•This makes me feel a bit better. I'm definitely trying to do the right thing by amending my filing as soon as I realized the mistake. I'll make sure to document all my attempts to get the full account numbers from the bank.
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Daniel Rogers
Another approach - if you have any tax documents from that bank (like foreign equivalents of 1099-INT), sometimes the account numbers are listed there. Worth checking any tax documents the bank may have sent you over the years.
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Fatima Al-Suwaidi
Great point about checking tax documents! I'd also suggest looking at any wire transfer receipts or international money transfer records you might have. When I was dealing with overseas accounts, I found that Western Union and bank wire transfer receipts often included the full destination account numbers, even when the bank wouldn't provide them directly. Also, if you used any financial apps or services to manage these accounts (like currency conversion apps or international banking apps), they sometimes store account details in your transaction history that you can access even after the accounts are closed or restricted. The key thing is to keep detailed records of every attempt you make to get the full account numbers. Take screenshots of online banking error messages, save emails from customer service, and document phone call dates and reference numbers. This paper trail will be invaluable if the IRS ever questions your filing.
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Evan Kalinowski
•This is really helpful advice! I never thought to check wire transfer receipts. I definitely sent money back to the US from those accounts a few times, so I might have those records somewhere. The documentation aspect is something I'm taking seriously now - I've already started keeping screenshots of the bank's customer service portal showing they won't provide full account numbers over their secure messaging system. One question though - if I find the full account numbers through these other sources you mentioned, should I still include the explanation about initially having partial information? Or would it be better to just file with the complete numbers and not mention the earlier difficulty?
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Camila Jordan
•If you find the complete account numbers through those other sources, I'd recommend just filing with the full numbers and keeping it simple. There's no need to complicate your filing by explaining difficulties you ultimately resolved. However, definitely keep all that documentation you've been collecting - the screenshots, call records, etc. Store them with your tax records in case you're ever audited or questioned about the filing. The IRS appreciates when taxpayers go the extra mile to get accurate information, and having that paper trail shows your diligence in complying with FBAR requirements. The amended FBAR should reflect the most complete and accurate information you can provide at the time of filing. If you have the full account numbers, use them. The explanation section is really meant for situations where you genuinely can't obtain complete information despite reasonable efforts.
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Xan Dae
I went through this exact situation last year with accounts in Germany that I'd forgotten about. The partial account number approach with "XX" really does work - I used "4567XX" format and included a brief explanation in the additional information section. One thing that helped me was contacting the bank via their secure online messaging system rather than phone. Sometimes they're more willing to provide account details through their encrypted messaging platforms since it creates a paper trail. Also, if you have any old debit or credit cards from those accounts, the account number is sometimes printed on the back in small text. The most important thing is to file the amended FBAR as soon as possible. I was worried about penalties too, but since I was proactively correcting an honest mistake and could show I made reasonable efforts to get complete information, there were no issues. The IRS really does seem to focus penalties on people who are trying to hide accounts, not those making good faith efforts to comply.
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Anastasia Kuznetsov
•That's really reassuring to hear from someone who went through the same thing! I never thought about checking old debit cards - that's brilliant. I actually think I still have one of those cards somewhere in my old wallet. The secure messaging idea is great too. I only tried calling because I thought it would be faster, but you're right that they might be more cooperative through their official messaging system since there's a record of the request. Thanks for mentioning the timeline aspect. I was wondering if I should wait to gather more information or just file the amendment now with what I have. It sounds like getting it filed sooner rather than later is the way to go, especially since I'm being proactive about correcting the oversight.
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Maya Jackson
I'd also recommend checking if you have any old tax preparation software files or documents that might contain the account information. Sometimes when we're preparing taxes, we enter foreign account details into tax software like TurboTax or similar programs, and those files might still have the complete account numbers stored. Another avenue to explore - if you worked for a company abroad and they helped you set up those accounts, your former employer's HR department might have records. Companies sometimes keep copies of banking setup documents for their international employees, especially if they were involved in direct deposit arrangements. The key thing everyone's mentioned here is absolutely right - document everything you're doing to try to get the complete information. I'd even suggest sending a formal written request to the bank (not just phone calls) so you have a paper trail showing they refused to provide the full account numbers. This kind of documentation really strengthens your case that you're making every reasonable effort to comply with FBAR requirements.
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