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Nia Williams

F1/OPT Student with Zero Income: Help Needed for APTC Repayment

Hey tax folks, I'm completely lost here as an international student. I'm on F1 OPT status (started 7/15/2024, been in the US about 3 years now) and have a weird situation with healthcare and taxes. When my university health insurance ended after graduation, I accidentally signed up for a Marketplace plan and got Advanced Premium Tax Credits (APTC) - around $1,850 total. The problem is I have literally $0 income right now because I'm doing an unpaid internship at a non-profit for my OPT. I've already canceled the Marketplace coverage once I realized my mistake and contacted Healthcare.gov, but now I'm stuck with this tax situation. I received the Form 1095-A showing the APTC amount. I used Sprintax for filing, but it only generated Form 8843 for me. I know I need to file Form 1040-NR to repay the APTC with my $0 income, but I have no idea how to do this manually. My main questions: 1. How do I correctly file Form 1040-NR to repay APTC when I have no income? 2. Do I need to include Form 1095-A or Form 8962 with my filing? (I understand as a non-resident alien I'm not eligible for PTCs) 3. I heard something about possibly only owing $375 instead of the full APTC amount - is this true for NRAs? 4. If I somehow overpay when sending money to the IRS, will they refund the difference? Sprintax wasn't helpful with the APTC repayment situation, and the IRS instructions for $0 income + APTC repayment are really confusing me. This is only my third time filing US taxes, and the first two years were simple with Sprintax. Any advice would be incredibly helpful! I don't want to make expensive mistakes.

You're in a tricky situation, but don't worry too much - we can figure this out! As an F1 student on OPT with $0 income who received APTC, you do need to file a tax return to reconcile those advance payments. First, you'll need to file Form 1040-NR as you correctly mentioned. Since Sprintax didn't generate this for you with the APTC situation, you'll need to complete it manually. On the 1040-NR, you'll report $0 income, but you'll need to complete Form 8962 to calculate your APTC repayment. For Form 8962, you'll use the information from your 1095-A. Since you had $0 income, you won't qualify for any Premium Tax Credit, which means you'll need to repay the APTC you received. You'll transfer this amount to your 1040-NR on Schedule 2, line 2. Regarding only owing $375 - that applies to certain US residents under specific income thresholds, but as a non-resident alien (NRA), you don't qualify for the repayment limitations. Unfortunately, you'll likely need to repay the full APTC amount. Yes, if you accidentally overpay the IRS, they will eventually refund you the excess amount. Just make sure all your forms are filled out correctly.

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Thanks for the clear explanation. I'm confused about one thing though - if I'm filing with $0 income, how do I calculate the percentage of Federal Poverty Line on Form 8962? Does it just come out as 0% or do I need to put something else? Also, will I be able to pay the APTC amount over time or do I have to pay it all at once when I file?

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For Form 8962 with $0 income, your percentage of Federal Poverty Line will indeed be 0%. There's a specific line for this calculation, and you'll essentially be showing that you're at 0% of the poverty line which confirms you don't qualify for any PTC. Regarding payment, you don't necessarily have to pay the full amount when you file. If you can't pay the entire amount at once, you can request a payment plan with the IRS using Form 9465 (Installment Agreement Request). The IRS is generally willing to work with taxpayers who can't pay their full tax liability immediately. They'll charge some interest and possibly a small setup fee, but it's much better than not filing or not paying at all.

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Something nobody's mentioned yet - make sure you're actually a non-resident alien for tax purposes! The substantial presence test might make you a resident alien depending on how long you've been in the US. You mentioned it's your 3rd year in the USA. Have you been here the full 3 calendar years? If so, you might actually be a resident alien for tax purposes, which would change how you file (1040 instead of 1040-NR) AND might make you eligible for those repayment limitations. Check out the substantial presence test calculator on the IRS website or use the one on Sprintax to double-check your status before filing anything!

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Thanks for bringing this up! I've been careful about tracking my days in the US. I first arrived in August 2021 for my degree program, and I qualify for the student exemption for the substantial presence test. So according to my calculations and what Sprintax confirmed, I'm still a non-resident alien for 2024 tax purposes. It's a really good point though - the rules around tax residency are super confusing, especially when you've been here multiple years.

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You're on the right track then! Just wanted to make sure since that's a common mistake international students make after being here a few years. The student exemption is a big deal for the substantial presence test. Since you're definitely a non-resident, make sure to file Form 8843 along with your 1040-NR and 8962. And keep good records of everything you submit, especially since you're dealing with APTC repayment. The IRS might have questions later, and having copies of everything will make your life easier.

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I'm confused why no one's talking about Form 843 for relief from tax penalties? If you had no income and made an honest mistake with the Marketplace plan, couldn't you request abatement of the APTC repayment based on reasonable cause?

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That's not how APTC works. Form 843 is for requesting abatement of penalties and interest, not for the actual tax liability itself. The APTC repayment isn't a penalty - it's reconciling an advance credit you weren't eligible for. It's like if someone accidentally gave you $1,850 that wasn't yours - you still have to give it back even if taking it was an honest mistake. The IRS doesn't have authority to just waive the repayment requirement.

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As someone who went through a similar situation as an F1 student, I want to emphasize a few key points that might help you: 1. **Double-check your filing status**: Since you mentioned being here about 3 years, make absolutely sure you qualify for the F1 student exemption from the substantial presence test. If you don't qualify for the exemption, you might actually be a resident alien for tax purposes, which would change everything about how you file and could make you eligible for repayment limitations. 2. **Payment options**: Don't stress too much about paying the full APTC amount immediately. The IRS offers payment plans (Form 9465) for taxpayers who can't pay their full liability at once. As a student with no income, they're usually understanding about installment agreements. 3. **Keep detailed records**: Since this is a complex situation involving international student status and APTC repayment, keep copies of everything - your 1095-A, 1040-NR, Form 8962, Form 8843, and any correspondence with the IRS. This will be crucial if they have questions later. 4. **Consider professional help**: While the online services mentioned seem helpful, you might also want to contact your school's international student services office. Many universities have tax preparation assistance specifically for international students, and they're familiar with these exact situations. The good news is that you caught this early and are being proactive about fixing it. That puts you in a much better position than if you had ignored it completely.

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This is really comprehensive advice! I especially appreciate the point about checking with the university's international student services office. I didn't even think about that resource, but they probably see these exact situations all the time. One question about the payment plan option - do you know if there's a minimum monthly payment amount for Form 9465, or can students with zero income propose whatever they can realistically afford? I'm worried about committing to payments I can't make once my OPT period starts and I hopefully find paid employment. Also, has anyone had experience with how long the IRS typically takes to process these types of returns? Since I'm filing both 1040-NR and Form 8962 by mail, I'm wondering if I should expect longer processing times than normal.

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