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Connor O'Neill

Employer didn't withhold SS and Medicare taxes since 2021 - what now?

So I've been on an F1 visa since August 2016, and I just realized my employer should have been withholding Social Security and Medicare taxes since 2021 when my 5-year exemption period ended. I had no idea about this rule until recently! I checked my W2 forms and sure enough, boxes 4 and 6 (for SS and Medicare withholding) are completely empty for 2021, 2022, and 2023. Our accounting department is now calculating what I supposedly "owe" them. Here's what's confusing me though - for tax years 2021 and 2022, I filed Form 1040 as a resident alien (not 1040-NR) and actually received refunds both years. This means I paid more in taxes than I needed to, right? I've been looking through the Form 1040 instructions but can't find where it separates federal income tax from Medicare + SS tax on line 16. It's just labeled "Tax." My gut feeling is that even though my employer didn't withhold these payroll taxes, I don't actually owe anything since I got refunds. The last thing I want to do is file amended returns for multiple years. Can someone help me understand if Line 16 on Form 1040 includes all taxes I owe for the year (Federal Income, SS, and Medicare)? I don't have any fancy situations like capital gains or foreign income to complicate things. Thanks for any help you can provide!

Yara Nassar

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Your situation is actually pretty common with international students transitioning from exempt to non-exempt status. Let me clarify a few things for you. Line 16 on Form 1040 is your total income tax, but it doesn't include Social Security and Medicare taxes (FICA taxes). These are handled separately because they're technically employment taxes, not income taxes. That's why you can get an income tax refund but still owe FICA taxes. Since your employer didn't withhold these FICA taxes (which should appear in boxes 4 and 6 on your W2), there's unfortunately still an obligation to pay them. Typically, the employer is responsible for half and the employee for half - about 7.65% from each party. Your employer should calculate the correct amount and work with you on how to handle it. They may need to file corrected payroll tax returns, and you might need to reimburse them for your portion.

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Thanks for explaining! This is super frustrating because I had no idea about this rule. Do you know if I would need to file amended tax returns (1040X) for 2021 and 2022? Or is this something my employer handles separately through their payroll system?

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Yara Nassar

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You typically won't need to file amended 1040 returns because, as I mentioned, these FICA taxes aren't reported on your income tax return. Your employer will need to file corrected employment tax returns (usually Form 941-X) and pay both their portion and your portion to the IRS. They would then be within their rights to ask you to reimburse them for your share of these taxes, which is about 7.65% of your wages. However, check your employment contract or talk to HR about how they plan to handle this situation. Some employers might absorb some or all of the cost since it was their error.

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Javier Torres

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - check if your employer is willing to pay both portions of the FICA taxes (employer and employee). I was in almost the exact same situation with my F1 visa, and my university employer acknowledged it was their mistake and covered both portions. They're supposed to know the rules, and this is a fairly common error with international employees. It doesn't hurt to politely ask if they'll cover the full amount since they failed to properly withhold. The worst they can say is no!

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Emma Davis

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This is super important advice. My wife's employer (a tech company) made the same mistake with her J1 visa and initially asked her to pay back around $8,000 for two years of missed FICA. After she pointed out it was their responsibility to know the tax laws, they ended up covering everything.

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I appreciate this suggestion! I'm going to bring this up with our HR director tomorrow. You're right that they should have known the rules, and I had no reason to think anything was wrong until now. I'll update if I have any luck with this approach.

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CosmicCaptain

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Just to add a data point - when this happened to me, my employer filed forms 941-X to correct their payroll tax returns and W-2c forms to give me corrected W-2s. They then set up a payment plan where they took a small amount from each paycheck for about 6 months to recover my portion of the taxes. The good news is that you don't have to deal with the IRS directly on this - your employer should handle most of it since it's primarily their mistake with their payroll tax filings.

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Malik Johnson

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Did they charge you any penalties or interest when they had you repay? My employer is trying to make me pay penalties for their mistake and it seems really unfair.

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CosmicCaptain

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No, they didn't charge me any penalties or interest on the repayment. They just calculated the exact amount of employee FICA taxes that should have been withheld (7.65% of my wages) and had me repay only that amount. They covered all penalties and interest charges themselves since it was their mistake. That seems fair to me - you shouldn't have to pay penalties for their error in not understanding tax regulations.

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One thing to keep in mind is the statute of limitations for payroll taxes. The IRS typically has 3 years to assess additional taxes. So while you technically owe these taxes, if your employer doesn't correct this soon for the 2021 tax year, the IRS may not be able to come after either of you for it after the statute expires. Not saying you should evade taxes, but there is a practical time limit on when corrections need to be made. Your employer might focus on fixing 2022-2023 and not bother with 2021 if it's getting close to that 3-year mark.

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Ravi Sharma

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This is somewhat misleading. The statute of limitations for the IRS is generally 3 years, but it extends to 6 years if there's a substantial omission (more than 25% of income) and there's no statute of limitations for fraud. Failing to pay FICA taxes could potentially fall under these exceptions depending on the amounts involved.

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Daniel Price

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I went through something very similar when I transitioned from F1 to H1B status. The 5-year exemption rule is really poorly communicated and catches a lot of international students off guard. One important point - make sure your employer calculates the correct dates for when FICA withholding should have started. It's not automatically January 1st of your 6th calendar year in the US, but rather based on when you actually completed 60 months of physical presence. If you had any trips outside the US during those 5 years, it could push the start date later. Also, double-check that your employer is only asking you to pay the employee portion (7.65%). Some employers mistakenly try to have employees cover both the employer and employee portions, but that's not correct - they're still responsible for their half even if they failed to withhold properly. Good luck with your HR conversation tomorrow! Document everything in writing so there's a clear record of what was agreed upon.

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Philip Cowan

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This is really helpful advice about the 60-month calculation! I hadn't even thought about how my trips home during breaks might affect the timeline. I did go back to my home country for about 3 weeks each summer, so that could definitely push back when my exemption period actually ended. Do you know if there's an easy way to calculate the exact date? I'm worried my employer might just assume it was January 1, 2021 when it could have been several months later. That could make a significant difference in how much I actually owe them. Also, thanks for the reminder about documenting everything - I'll make sure to get any agreements in writing after our meeting.

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Drake

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The 60-month calculation can be tricky, but it's worth getting right since it could save you hundreds or even thousands of dollars. You need to track your actual days of physical presence in the US, not just calendar time. Start with your initial entry date on F1 status and count forward 60 months (1,826 days), but subtract any days you were outside the US during that period. Those summer trips home definitely count against your presence, so if you were gone 3 weeks each year for 5 years, that's about 105 days total that would extend your exemption period. You can request your I-94 travel history from CBP's website (i94.cbp.dhs.gov) to get exact entry/exit dates if you don't have detailed records. This will give you the precise date when your FICA exemption ended. Given that your employer is just now discovering this issue, I'd be surprised if they did the calculation correctly the first time. Most HR departments just assume calendar years rather than doing the actual day-by-day count. Definitely worth double-checking their math!

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