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Does trading stocks/crypto in an S-Corp change how taxes are calculated for capital gains?

I'm setting up an S-Corporation and trying to figure out if there are any real tax advantages for stock and crypto trading beyond the usual benefits of owners distributions. The pass-through nature is what's really confusing me. Here's my situation: If my S-Corp buys and sells stocks/crypto throughout the year with multiple short-term trades, I understand I can pay myself a reasonable salary and take owner distributions from the trading profits. But since S-Corps are pass-through entities, I'm wondering about the capital gains tax situation. Would I have to pay capital gains tax on the trading profits AND also income tax when I take salary/distributions? That seems like double taxation, which doesn't make sense for a pass-through. Some articles I've read suggest that capital gains would be passed through to my personal return, which is confusing me. Does this mean I need non-investment income in the S-Corp to legitimately pay myself? Also, I'm unclear how the capital gains themselves get calculated - is each trade a separate taxable event like with individual investing, or is it treated more like regular business income where only year-end profit matters? And what if instead of keeping cash profits in the S-Corp at year end, I reinvest it all into new positions? Does that change the tax situation since there's no actual cash sitting around? I've talked to both a lawyer and CPA and gotten different answers, which is making this way more frustrating than it should be.

The confusion is understandable! Let me clarify how this works. With an S-Corporation that trades stocks/crypto, the entity itself doesn't pay taxes - all income, including capital gains, flows through to your personal tax return via Schedule K-1. When your S-Corp makes profits from trading, those capital gains maintain their character (short-term or long-term) as they pass through to you. You'd report these on your personal return just as if you had made those trades yourself. So no, you're not being double-taxed on the same money. Regarding salary and distributions: Yes, as an S-Corp owner you need to pay yourself a reasonable salary subject to employment taxes (Social Security and Medicare). Any additional distributions beyond that reasonable salary aren't subject to self-employment taxes, which is the main tax advantage of an S-Corp. But both your salary and distributions come from the company's profits, which have already been allocated to you via K-1. For the capital gains specifically - each trade is still a separate taxable event with its own basis and holding period, just like individual investing. The S-Corp tracks these separately and they flow to your personal return with the same character they had in the S-Corp. Reinvesting profits doesn't change your tax liability - you're still taxed on the realized gains whether you hold cash or immediately buy new investments.

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This is really helpful, but I'm still confused about one thing. If the S-Corp makes $100K in capital gains from trading, and I pay myself $60K salary and $40K in distributions, do I still have to report the full $100K capital gains on my personal return? Or just the $40K distribution part? And do I need to run payroll for the company if the only activity is trading?

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You would report the full $100K of capital gains on your personal return via the K-1. The salary and distributions are just methods of taking money out of the business - they don't affect how the underlying income is taxed. The entire $100K flows through to you regardless of how much you actually withdraw from the company. Yes, you absolutely need to run payroll for the S-Corp even if trading is the only activity. The IRS expects S-Corp owners who provide services to take a reasonable salary subject to employment taxes. If you're making trading decisions, researching investments, and managing the portfolio, you're providing services and need to receive an appropriate salary for that work.

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How does it handle the QBI deduction for trading in an S-Corp? My accountant says trading stocks doesn't qualify as a "trade or business" for QBI purposes, but I've heard conflicting info.

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Is this actually worth it for a small trader? I'm doing maybe 50-100 trades a year in my S-Corp and wondering if this would just overcomplicate things compared to having my regular CPA handle it.

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Your accountant is generally correct - securities trading typically doesn't qualify for QBI (Qualified Business Income) deduction unless you're a dealer in securities. The taxr.ai system actually flagged this for me and prevented me from taking an inappropriate deduction that might have triggered an audit. For a smaller trader, it's still valuable if you want to maximize tax efficiency. With 50-100 trades, there are still opportunities to optimize your entity structure and expense allocation. I was doing about 75 trades per quarter and found the insights very valuable, especially regarding how to properly document my time spent on research to justify my salary for IRS purposes.

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Yeah right. I doubt the IRS would give clear answers on complex S-Corp trading questions over the phone. Most phone agents just give generic answers and tell you to consult a tax professional for complex situations.

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It doesn't bypass the system - it basically does the waiting for you. You enter your phone number, and they call you back once they've gotten through the IRS phone system and have an actual agent on the line. It saves you from having to sit on hold yourself for hours. Regarding complex questions, I was surprised too, but I got connected to someone in the business tax department who was quite knowledgeable. You're right that they won't give comprehensive tax planning advice, but they absolutely can clarify specific rules about how S-Corp trading income flows through to personal returns and what documentation is required. I took detailed notes during the call and it resolved several contradictions my professionals had given me.

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One important thing that hasn't been mentioned yet - if your S-Corp is only doing trading, you might run into the "personal holding company" rules. Essentially, if your S-Corp's income is primarily from investments rather than an active trade or business, you could lose some of the tax benefits. Also, be aware that day trading in an S-Corp might qualify you for "trader tax status" which changes how you can deduct expenses and potentially allows mark-to-market accounting. This is a whole different ball game tax-wise and potentially very beneficial if you qualify.

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How many trades would you need to do to qualify for trader tax status in an S-Corp? I do maybe 5-10 trades a week, mostly swing trading (holding for a few days to weeks). Would that be enough?

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There's no specific number of trades required by the IRS to qualify for trader tax status. It's based on several factors: frequency of trades (daily or almost daily activity is best), seeking to profit from short-term market swings rather than dividends or long-term appreciation, substantial time devoted to the activity, and significant dollar amounts involved. With 5-10 trades per week, you might be on the borderline. The courts generally want to see more frequent trading, typically daily activity. If your holding periods are just a few days, that helps your case, but a few weeks might be pushing it. The key is whether your activity demonstrates that you're trying to catch short-term market movements versus buying and holding for appreciation.

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People overlooking a HUGE point here - if your S-Corp ONLY does trading and has no other business activity, you might not get the S-Corp tax benefits you're hoping for! The main advantage of an S-Corp is saving on self-employment taxes by taking a portion of your income as distributions. But if all you're doing is trading, those profits are considered investment income, NOT earned income or self-employment income to begin with! So essentially, you're creating an extra entity with extra compliance costs (corporate tax returns, payroll, etc.) without getting the main tax benefit. Individual traders don't pay self-employment tax on their trading profits anyway! The exception would be if you qualify for trader tax status AND make a mark-to-market election - then there can be some advantages. But for casual trading? Probably not worth the S-Corp complexity.

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This is the most important comment in this thread! I wish someone had told me this before I set up my S-Corp for trading. Ended up with extra accounting fees and paperwork for basically no benefit since trading profits weren't subject to SE tax in the first place. Now I have to maintain the entity or pay to dissolve it. Learn from my mistake!

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Wait, so if I'm understanding correctly, securities trading profits aren't subject to self-employment tax even if done by an individual? So the whole point of an S-Corp (avoiding SE tax on part of the income) doesn't apply? That's HUGE if true.

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