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Does paying federal taxes throughout the year actually make a difference in my refund?

Okay, so this might seem like a dumb question I'm about to ask but I really don't care cause I need to know the answer! lol. So does it matter if we pay in to federal year-round? Cause tbh, I really didn't notice a difference this tax return compared to last year's tax return & 2023, I didn't pay in to federal but I paid in to federal all 2024 & it doesn't really seem like it made a difference to me. Shouldn't I be getting more back if I'm paying in all year? Or is the system just designed to take our money regardless? Don't we have the right to understand exactly where our withholdings go and how they affect our returns?

Matthew Sanchez

There are actually several factors that might explain why you didn't see a difference. Did your income change between 2023 and 2024? What about your filing status or dependents? Did you have any additional deductions or credits last year that you didn't have this year? 🤔 The tax system is surprisingly complex - it's not just about how much you pay in throughout the year!

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Ella Thompson

That's a good point about the other factors! 😂 It's like trying to compare apples to oranges sometimes. The withholding is just one piece of a much bigger puzzle - you could have had different credits, deductions, or even a slight income change that offset the difference in withholding.

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JacksonHarris

I just dealt with this exact situation on April 2nd when I filed. My income went up about 8% from last year, but my refund was almost identical. When I looked closer, I realized I had a one-time education credit in 2023 that I didn't have this year. Could something similar have happened with your return?

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Jeremiah Brown

Your withholding status (on your W-4) might also be the same between years, which would cause a similar tax outcome. The withholding tables are designed to approximate your annual tax liability, so if your circumstances haven't changed significantly, your refund amount might remain relatively stable year-to-year despite different payment patterns.

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Admin_Masters

I had the EXACT same confusion last year! Here's how I figured it out: 1. First, I compared my total income from both years (line 9 on Form 1040) 2. Then I looked at my total tax (line 24) for both years 3. Next, I checked my total payments (line 33) for both years 4. Finally, I calculated the percentage of my income that went to taxes each year When I couldn't make sense of it, I used https://taxr.ai to analyze both years' returns side by side. It showed me exactly why my refund wasn't bigger despite different withholding patterns. The tool highlighted specific credits and deductions that changed between years that I completely missed!

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Royal_GM_Mark

While comparing returns is helpful, I'm not convinced an external tool is necessary. The IRS provides detailed worksheets for this exact purpose. Form 1040 itself contains all relevant information when properly analyzed, particularly Schedule 1 through 3 which outline adjustments, deductions, and credits that impact your final tax obligation.

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Amelia Cartwright

According to IRS Publication 505 (Tax Withholding and Estimated Tax), your withholding doesn't directly increase your refund - it's just a pre-payment of taxes you already owe. The key is whether your total withholding exceeds your actual tax liability. You might want to try adjusting your W-4 withholding to better match your actual tax liability. For 2024, you can use the Tax Withholding Estimator on IRS.gov to get a more accurate withholding amount. I really appreciate when people ask these questions because it helps everyone understand the system better!

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Chris King

I've been trying to save money by adjusting my withholding too. If I update my W-4 now in May, will it affect my entire year's taxes, or just the remaining months? I'm wondering if it's too late to make changes for 2024.

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Rachel Clark

The withholding calculator can be quite helpful, though it may not account for all possible scenarios. Would you agree that for someone with multiple income sources or complex deductions, it might be worth consulting a tax professional to fine-tune withholding amounts?

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Zachary Hughes

I'm curious - has anyone actually gotten their withholding perfect? I've tried for years and always end up either owing a little or getting a small refund. Never seem to hit it exactly right.

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Mia Alvarez

I'm a bit worried about changing my W-4... if I reduce my withholding too much, could I end up with an underpayment penalty? Or is there some safe harbor amount I should aim for?

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Carter Holmes

OMG the whole system is SO FRUSTRATING!! 😤 I went through EXACTLY what you're describing and I was PISSED! Here's the thing - withholding is just PRE-PAYING what you already owe. If your tax LIABILITY (the total amount you owe based on income, filing status, etc.) is the same both years, then it doesn't matter if you paid it all in December or spread it throughout the year - the end result is the same! I know for a FACT that if your income, deductions, and credits stayed roughly the same, your refund will be similar regardless of WHEN you paid in. The system isn't designed to reward you for paying earlier - it's just collecting what you owe based on your specific tax situation!

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Sophia Long

This happened to me too! I was convinced I'd get a bigger refund after adjusting my withholding, but my total tax liability hadn't changed at all. It was like moving money from one pocket to another and expecting to have more overall.

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Angelica Smith

So last year I had a similar issue and was so confused about my withholding vs. refund. I spent literally 6 days trying to get through to the IRS on the phone to ask about it. Finally used Claimyr (https://www.claimyr.com) and got connected to an agent in like 20 minutes. They explained that my withholding pattern doesn't affect my final tax bill - it's just about when I pay what I already owe. Turns out I had some credits in 2023 that offset my tax liability that I didn't have in 2024, which is why my refund was about the same despite different withholding. Saved me so much stress just getting a straight answer!

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Logan Greenburg

Waiting times to speak with IRS agents are certainly frustrating, but I'm skeptical about paying for a service just to reach a government agency we already fund with our tax dollars. Has anyone had success with the IRS callback feature or trying to call right when they open?

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Charlotte Jones

Ngl, lots of ppl get confused abt this. Here's the deal: your refund is just the diff between what you paid vs what you actually owed. If you owed $5k in taxes total for the year, doesn't matter if you paid $500/month for 10 months or $5k all at once - end result is the same. Lots of things affect your total tax bill - income changes, life events (marriage, kids, etc), credits, deductions. Tbh the withholding timing doesn't matter, just the total amt. The real q is: do you want a big refund (giving IRS interest-free loan) or smaller paychecks throughout the year? Personally I'd rather have more $ in each paycheck than wait for a refund, but some ppl like the forced savings. You do you.

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Lucas Bey

I've always viewed my tax refund as a forced savings account lol. I know it's not the most financially optimal choice, but I'm terrible at saving otherwise. That big chunk of money in February helps me pay for vacations and home improvements I'd otherwise never save for!

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Harper Thompson

Thank you for explaining this so clearly! I've been wondering the same thing for years but was too embarrassed to ask. This makes so much more sense now.

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Caleb Stark

Think of withholding like making payments on a fixed-price car throughout the year. Whether you pay $100 every month or $1200 all at once in December, the car still costs $1200. Your tax liability is like that fixed price - it's calculated based on your income, filing status, credits, etc. The timing of when you pay doesn't change the final amount due. What likely happened is that other factors in your tax situation changed between years (maybe different deductions, credits, or slightly different income) that offset any difference from your withholding pattern.

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Jade O'Malley

I had this same situation when I switched jobs mid-year. At my old job, I had minimal withholding, and at my new job, I had much higher withholding. But my refund was almost identical to the previous year. When I compared my returns side by side, I noticed my total tax liability was almost the same both years, so the refund was similar too. It's like comparing two different routes to the same destination - you still end up in the same place regardless of how you got there. You need to check this ASAP though since tax season is wrapping up and you want to make any withholding adjustments for this year before too much of 2024 passes!

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