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Jackie Martinez

Do people with LLCs pay less taxes? What about claiming yourself as an employee?

I just had coffee with a couple of business owners and got totally confused about how business taxes work. One guy told me he actually claims himself as his employee and pays himself a salary from his own business?! I was like, what? How does that even work? He swore it's completely legit and that he's been doing it for years since he started his business. Both of them kept saying owning an LLC is great for tax purposes, but then the salary guy mentioned his isn't actually an LLC but something called a "Professional Corporation." I'm completely lost on how all this works. Do people with LLCs actually pay less in taxes? And can you really employ yourself and pay yourself a salary? Is there an actual tax advantage to this setup or are they just making things complicated for no reason?

Lia Quinn

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Yes, this can be legitimate but there are important distinctions to understand. When someone owns an LLC, they have options for how they're taxed. By default, a single-member LLC is taxed as a "disregarded entity" (basically like a sole proprietorship) where all income passes through to your personal tax return on Schedule C, and you pay self-employment taxes on everything. What your friend with the Professional Corporation (likely an S-Corp or C-Corp) is doing is different. When you incorporate, you can become an employee of your own corporation. You pay yourself a "reasonable salary" that's subject to employment taxes (Social Security and Medicare), but then can take additional money as distributions that aren't subject to those taxes. This can save on the 15.3% self-employment tax for portions of your income. The catch is that your salary must be "reasonable" for your industry and role - you can't just pay yourself $1 and take everything else as distributions. The IRS watches for this.

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Haley Stokes

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Wait, so if I start an LLC for my photography business, does that automatically mean I'll pay less in taxes? Or do I need to do something specific to get the tax benefits?

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Lia Quinn

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No, simply forming an LLC doesn't automatically reduce your taxes. By default, a single-member LLC is taxed exactly the same as a sole proprietorship - all profits flow through to your personal tax return via Schedule C and you pay self-employment taxes on the entire amount. To get the tax treatment where you can pay yourself a salary plus distributions (potentially saving on self-employment taxes), you would need to either elect S-Corporation tax treatment for your LLC or form an actual corporation. This requires filing Form 8832 or 2553 with the IRS. There are also ongoing payroll requirements and additional tax filings that come with this setup, so there are more administrative costs involved.

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Asher Levin

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Wait, how does this actually work? I thought it was impossible to get through to the IRS. Do they have some special phone number or something?

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Justin Trejo

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This sounds like BS. There's no way to "skip the line" with the IRS. They're probably just recording your personal info or something sketchy.

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Alana Willis

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The other thing nobody's mentioned yet is that LLC and corporation status also gives you liability protection. If your business gets sued, they can't come after your personal assets (in most cases). So there are non-tax benefits too. But yeah, the tax situation is tricky. My accountant actually advised AGAINST S-Corp election for my LLC this year because I'm only projecting about $65k in profit, and the payroll costs and extra tax filings would eat up any SE tax savings. She said once I hit about $80k consistently, we'll make the switch.

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Tyler Murphy

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Is the liability protection really that valuable though? I've heard you need good insurance anyway since people can still try to pierce the corporate veil if you don't keep business and personal completely separate?

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Alana Willis

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The liability protection is valuable but not perfect. You're right that you still need good insurance, and yes, "piercing the corporate veil" is a real concern. If you don't maintain separate business bank accounts, mix personal and business expenses, or don't follow corporate formalities, the courts can potentially hold you personally liable. LLC protection works best for legitimate business debts and certain types of lawsuits. It's one layer of protection that works alongside proper insurance. So it's not an either/or situation - smart business owners have both the legal structure AND insurance coverage.

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Sara Unger

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I think everyone's missing a key point here. The tax savings of an S-Corp setup mostly come from avoiding self-employment tax (15.3%) on a portion of your income. But remember Biden signed that bill that increased Medicare tax for higher incomes to fund some of those IRA climate thingys. So make sure your calculations are using the current tax rates not old advice from a few years ago!

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The Medicare surtax (0.9%) only applies to incomes over $200k for singles/$250k married, so it won't affect most small business owners just starting out. The bigger recent tax change was actually the SECURE 2.0 Act which changed retirement plan options for small businesses.

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