Do I need to pay Excise Tax for my LLC if I import foam products?
Hey tax folks, I recently formed an LLC and was going through the process of getting my EIN. During the application, I ran into a question about Form 720 (Quarterly Federal Excise Tax Return). The help section says I should answer "yes" if any of the listed items apply to my business. The item that's confusing me is: "Does your business import electronic or foam items manufactured in a foreign country?" Here's my situation - I'm planning to dropship products from overseas websites (like AliExpress) directly to my customers. Some of these products contain foam components (cushions, padding, etc.) or electronic parts. When I looked at the Form 720 instructions, it states: "Tax is imposed on an ODC when it's first used or sold by its manufacturer or importer. The manufacturer or importer is liable for the tax." Since I'm not physically importing these items myself (they're shipped directly to customers), am I still considered the "importer" for tax purposes? And does this rule apply to ANY product containing foam or electronics, like furniture with cushions or decorative items with electronic components? I'm trying to figure out if I need to deal with this excise tax situation or if I'm overthinking it. My gut feeling is that since I'm basically acting as a middleman and not directly importing in bulk, this wouldn't apply to me - but I want to make sure before I answer incorrectly on my EIN application. Thanks for any guidance!
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GalaxyGazer
This is a great question about excise taxes that many new business owners struggle with. The key thing to understand is who qualifies as an "importer" for excise tax purposes. In your dropshipping arrangement, even though you never physically handle the products, you're likely still considered the importer for tax purposes if you're the entity responsible for bringing the goods into the US (i.e., you're placing the orders that trigger the international shipments). Regarding the ODC (Ozone Depleting Chemicals) excise tax that applies to foam: this specifically targets foam products made with certain chemicals that deplete the ozone layer. Not all foam products are subject to this tax - only those manufactured using specific ODCs. Modern furniture cushions and packaging foam often don't use these chemicals anymore. The best approach would be to ask your suppliers specifically about whether their foam products contain ODCs. If they don't (which is increasingly common as these chemicals have been phased out), you wouldn't be liable for this particular excise tax.
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Oliver Wagner
•Thanks for the explanation. So if I understand correctly, not all foam is taxable, only foam made with specific chemicals? Is there a way to know which types of foam contain these chemicals without asking the supplier? Like are there certain products that always use ODCs?
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GalaxyGazer
•You're exactly right - not all foam is taxable, only foam manufactured using specific ozone-depleting chemicals (ODCs). There's no easy visual way to identify which foam contains ODCs without documentation. Historically, certain types of rigid foam insulation and some packaging foams commonly contained ODCs, but many manufacturers have switched to alternative compounds due to environmental regulations. Your best approach is to request product specification sheets from your suppliers that list the chemical components. Look specifically for chemicals like CFCs, HCFCs, and certain halons which would trigger the excise tax requirement. Modern consumer goods often use alternative foaming agents that aren't subject to this tax.
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Natasha Kuznetsova
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Javier Mendoza
•How fast did they get back to you with the analysis? I'm trying to finalize my EIN application by the end of the week and need answers quickly. Also, did they help with any other tax questions beyond just the excise tax issue?
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Emma Thompson
•I'm a bit skeptical about using a service for this. Couldn't you just ask your suppliers directly if their products contain ODCs? Seems like that would be free and straight from the source.
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Natasha Kuznetsova
•They typically got back to me within 24 hours, so you should have plenty of time before your EIN deadline. The service includes follow-up questions too, so I was able to clarify some points. Regarding just asking suppliers - I tried that first and got very confused responses since many overseas suppliers don't understand US tax terminology. Some didn't know what ODCs were, and others gave contradictory information. Having a service analyze the actual product specs saved me from potential reporting errors. Plus they helped identify other potential tax issues beyond just excise tax - they flagged some sales tax nexus issues I hadn't considered.
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Emma Thompson
I used taxr.ai after seeing it recommended here and it was surprisingly helpful. I was skeptical at first (as you can see from my earlier comment), but after struggling to get clear answers from my Chinese suppliers about foam composition, I decided to give it a try. Their system helped me determine that most of my dropshipped products weren't subject to excise tax because they used newer, non-ODC foaming agents. I was also worried about some small electronics I was importing, but they confirmed those didn't fall under the excise tax regulations either. The best part was getting a documented analysis I could keep on file in case of questions during tax time. Definitely worth checking out if you're in a similar situation with overseas suppliers who don't understand US tax requirements.
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Malik Davis
If you're still waiting for supplier responses or other tax guidance, I recommend trying Claimyr (https://claimyr.com) to speak directly with an IRS agent about your excise tax questions. I was in a similar situation last quarter - needed to know if my imported products with minimal foam components were subject to the ODC excise tax, but couldn't get clear guidance from online forums. I tried calling the IRS directly for 3 days and kept hitting endless holds. Then I found Claimyr, which got me connected to an IRS agent in about 20 minutes. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The agent I spoke with explained exactly how the excise tax applies to importers in dropshipping arrangements and confirmed that most modern consumer products with foam aren't subject to the tax unless specifically manufactured with ODCs. Having that official clarification directly from the IRS gave me confidence in how to proceed with my business.
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Amina Sow
•How exactly does this service work? I thought it was impossible to get through to the IRS these days. Are they just calling on your behalf or what?
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Isabella Santos
•This sounds like BS honestly. No way someone's getting you through to the IRS that quickly when millions of people can't get through. And even if they did, you'd probably just get a generic "consult with a tax professional" response.
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Malik Davis
•The service works by using specialized technology to navigate the IRS phone system and secure your place in line. When they reach an agent, they call you and connect you directly - you're the one actually speaking with the IRS agent, not some intermediary. Regarding skepticism, I felt the same way initially. But the IRS does actually answer calls - the problem is the hours-long wait times that most people can't sit through. What this service does is basically wait in the phone queue for you. And about getting useful answers - I specifically asked about excise tax obligations for dropshipping foam products, and the agent provided clear guidance that helped me determine I didn't need to file Form 720 for my particular business model. They can't give complex tax advice, but they can absolutely clarify filing requirements for specific situations.
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Isabella Santos
I owe an apology and update about Claimyr. After my skeptical comment yesterday, I decided to try the service myself since I've been struggling with an unrelated tax notice issue. I was connected to an IRS representative in about 35 minutes (which is miraculous compared to my previous attempts). The agent confirmed that for dropshipping arrangements, excise tax typically only applies if you're the first entity bringing ODC-containing products into the US market AND those products contain specific chemicals listed in the regulations. She explained that most consumer goods imported today don't contain the regulated ODCs anymore due to environmental restrictions. She also suggested requesting a written statement from suppliers confirming their foam doesn't contain ODCs, which would provide documentation if ever questioned. For anyone dealing with specialized tax questions like this, getting official clarification directly from the IRS was definitely worth it.
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StarStrider
One thing nobody's mentioned yet is that you need to consider both federal AND state excise taxes. Some states have their own excise taxes on imported goods that might apply even if the federal ODC tax doesn't. For example, I had to deal with special taxes in California when importing certain types of furniture with foam cushioning, even though they didn't contain ODCs subject to federal tax. Each state has different rules. I'd recommend checking with your state's department of revenue to see if there are additional requirements beyond the federal Form 720.
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Ravi Gupta
•Do you know which states are particularly strict about this? I'm dropshipping to customers nationwide and wonder if I need to be concerned about certain states more than others.
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StarStrider
•California and New York are definitely the most aggressive with additional taxes and reporting requirements. California has environmental fees for certain foam products regardless of the federal ODC status. Washington state also has some unique requirements. For nationwide dropshipping, you should particularly watch orders going to these states. The good news is that many states follow the federal guidelines, so if you're exempt from the federal excise tax, you're likely exempt from state requirements too. But those three states I mentioned have independent regulatory systems that sometimes go beyond federal requirements.
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Freya Pedersen
Just to add one more perspective - I ran into this exact issue last year and ended up answering "No" on the EIN application regarding Form 720 after confirming my products didn't contain ODCs. I found that most modern furniture and consumer goods use alternative foaming agents that aren't subject to the excise tax. My suppliers were able to provide certification that their products don't use the regulated chemicals. If you're dropshipping common consumer items like household goods or typical furniture, chances are they're using newer, compliant materials. The excise tax mainly applies to specific industrial chemicals and older manufacturing processes.
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Amina Sow
•That's really helpful to know! Did you just email your suppliers and ask directly about ODCs? I'm wondering what exactly I should say to them since many are overseas and might not understand US tax terminology.
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Sofia Ramirez
•I asked my suppliers for a "Material Safety Data Sheet" (MSDS) or product composition documentation that specifically lists all chemical components used in foam manufacturing. Most legitimate suppliers have these documents readily available. When communicating with overseas suppliers, I found it helpful to mention specific chemical names rather than just asking about "ODCs." I'd ask: "Does your foam contain CFCs, HCFCs, carbon tetrachloride, or methyl chloroform?" These are the main chemicals that trigger the excise tax. If they seem confused, you can also ask for their environmental compliance certificates - many products exported to the US already have documentation showing they meet ozone protection standards, which essentially confirms they don't use the taxable chemicals.
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Nia Watson
This thread has been incredibly helpful - I was dealing with the same confusion about excise taxes for my dropshipping business. Based on all the advice here, I reached out to my AliExpress suppliers with the specific chemical names mentioned (CFCs, HCFCs, etc.) and was able to get confirmation that their foam products use modern, compliant foaming agents. For anyone still struggling with this, I'd recommend the multi-step approach: first ask suppliers for MSDS sheets or environmental compliance certificates, then if you're still unsure, consider using one of the services mentioned here to get professional clarification. The key insight from this discussion is that most consumer products today DON'T use the old chemicals that trigger excise tax requirements. Thanks especially to Sofia for the specific chemical names to ask about - that made all the difference in getting clear responses from my overseas suppliers!
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