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Felix Grigori

Do I need to file Form 8990 with tiny partnership equity losses? Can I still e-file?

Hey tax people, I could really use some help figuring this out. I'm a small investor in a private company (like, super small - less than $15k invested and about 0.002% ownership). I got my K-1 from the partnership and had a total loss of -$16.50 for the year. My problem is that TurboTax is telling me I need to file Form 8990 (something about business interest expense limitation) and is saying I can't e-file because of it. But I'm wondering if I might be exempt from filing this form since my investment and loss are so minimal? I'm not a tax expert at all and this is the first time I've had to deal with a K-1. Does anyone know if there's a minimum threshold for Form 8990 filing requirements? And if I actually do need this form, can I still e-file my return and just mail the 8990 separately? The whole situation seems excessive for such a tiny loss.

The good news is that you're likely exempt from filing Form 8990! This form is related to the business interest expense limitation, but there are several exemptions. Based on your situation (tiny ownership percentage and minimal loss), you almost certainly qualify for the small business exemption. If the partnership's average annual gross receipts for the prior three years is less than $27 million, the business is exempt from these limitations. Most partnerships will indicate on your K-1 whether you need to file Form 8990. Check Box 20 of your K-1 (Code AH) - if it's not checked, you don't need to file Form 8990. If the code is checked, look at the attached statement to see if you're exempt. Even with such a small loss amount (-$16.50), the tax software is just following rules without considering the exemptions that might apply to your situation.

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Thank you so much for this helpful response! I just checked my K-1 again and Box 20 doesn't have any Code AH checked, so that's a relief. But I'm still confused about why TurboTax is insisting I need this form. Is there something else that could be triggering this requirement that I'm missing?

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Tax software sometimes gets overly cautious with partnership K-1 entries. Since you confirmed Box 20 doesn't have Code AH checked, you're exempt from filing Form 8990. The issue might be how you're entering the K-1 information into TurboTax. Try removing any entries related to business interest expense or double-check that you haven't accidentally selected something that would trigger this requirement. If TurboTax continues to insist on Form 8990, you might need to override this in the software, which sometimes requires using the desktop version rather than online. Alternatively, you could try a different tax preparation software that might handle this situation better. Given your minimal loss, this form is definitely not required for your situation.

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After reading about your K-1 situation, I wanted to share my experience. I had almost the exact same issue last year with a small equity stake and TurboTax flagging Form 8990. I spent hours trying to figure it out until I discovered taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai). Their system analyzed my K-1 and confirmed I was exempt from filing Form 8990 due to the small business exemption. The tool specifically looked at my K-1 entries and pointed out that my tax software was incorrectly applying the business interest limitation rules to my situation. Their analysis showed exactly which boxes on my K-1 indicated the exemption applied, and they generated documentation explaining why Form 8990 wasn't required.

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How exactly does taxr.ai work? Do you just upload your tax documents and it tells you what forms you need? I've been having issues with my own K-1 from an LLC investment and my accountant is charging me extra for all these "special forms" that I'm not sure I actually need.

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I'm skeptical about these tax tools. Wouldn't an actual CPA be better for complicated partnership stuff? I'm worried about trusting some algorithm with tax advice when the IRS penalties can be steep. Did you have any concerns about relying on their analysis?

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You upload your tax documents and it analyzes them using AI to identify issues and requirements. It's especially good with K-1s and partnership returns because it can detect exemptions that tax software often misses. The system highlights specific entries on your forms that indicate certain requirements or exemptions. I was definitely skeptical at first too! What convinced me was that they provide detailed explanations citing specific IRS regulations and publications. The analysis explained exactly why the small business exemption applied to my situation and referenced the relevant tax code sections. It wasn't just saying "you don't need this form" - it was showing me the exact reasons why, which I could verify. Their documentation actually helped me override my tax software's warning.

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Just wanted to update after trying taxr.ai for my K-1 issue. I uploaded my partnership K-1 and it immediately identified that I qualified for the small business exemption for Form 8990! The system showed me that Box 20 had no Code AH, and explained that my partnership's average annual gross receipts were below the $27 million threshold. I was able to confidently override the warning in my tax software and e-file without Form 8990. The tool also found a couple of deductions I missed related to my passive activity loss limitations. Seriously relieved because my original tax preparer wanted to charge me $200 extra just to "analyze" whether I needed this form. The documentation I got was clear enough that I could have shown it to an auditor if needed.

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If you're still having trouble with your tax software after confirming you don't need Form 8990, you might need to contact the IRS directly. I was in a similar situation last year and spent DAYS trying to get through to someone who could help. After 6 attempts and hours on hold, I finally discovered Claimyr (https://claimyr.com). They got me connected to an IRS agent in about 15 minutes instead of the usual multi-hour wait. The IRS agent confirmed that with ownership under 0.5% and such a small loss amount, Form 8990 wasn't required for my situation. They actually provided me with documentation I could reference if my return was ever questioned. You can see how Claimyr works in this video: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c - it literally saved me days of frustration.

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How does this Claimyr thing actually work? I've been trying to reach the IRS for weeks about a similar partnership issue. Are you saying this service somehow gets you to the front of the IRS phone queue? That sounds too good to be true.

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It works by using their system that continuously redials and navigates the IRS phone tree for you. Once they get through, they call you and connect you directly to the IRS agent. You're not skipping any lines - they're just handling the frustrating redial process that can take hours or days. I had the exact same skepticism initially! I thought it was either a scam or they were misrepresenting their service. But they don't charge you anything unless they actually connect you to an IRS agent. When I used it, I got the call back in about 15 minutes, and I was connected directly to an IRS representative. The connection was clearly to the actual IRS (they verified my identity using the standard IRS verification process). It's basically just a service that handles the redial nightmare for you - the call itself is still with official IRS agents.

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I need to apologize about my skeptical comment on Claimyr. I was so frustrated with my K-1 issues that I lashed out. After struggling for another week trying to reach the IRS myself about my partnership interest expense questions, I broke down and tried Claimyr. They actually got me through to the IRS in about 20 minutes when I had previously spent 3+ hours on hold multiple times. The IRS agent confirmed I qualified for the small business exemption for Form 8990 since my partnership's gross receipts were well under the threshold. She specifically told me that many tax software programs incorrectly flag this form requirement for small investors. I was able to e-file without Form 8990 and my return was accepted without issues. Sometimes being proven wrong is actually a good thing!

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Just want to add that you can also check if your partnership is exempt from the business interest limitations by asking them directly. Most partnerships with average gross receipts under $27 million make an election to be exempt, and this applies to all partners regardless of ownership percentage. I'm a small business accountant, and most of our partnership clients make this election because it saves everyone the hassle of Form 8990. Even if they didn't make the election, with your tiny loss amount (-$16.50), there's practically zero chance you'd have any limitation to report anyway.

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If TurboTax won't let me e-file without this form but I'm actually exempt, what's my best option? Override the warning somehow or switch to different software? I've already entered everything else and really don't want to start over!

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If you're confident you're exempt based on the K-1 not having Box 20 Code AH checked, you have a few options. First, try looking for an "override" function in TurboTax - the desktop version usually has this capability. Look for terms like "ignore warnings" or "proceed anyway" when it flags the 8990 requirement. If that's not available, you might need to switch software. Many preparers find that FreeTaxUSA or TaxAct handle K-1 situations more flexibly than TurboTax, especially with these partnership exemptions. You can usually import your TurboTax file rather than starting from scratch. As a last resort, you could print and mail your return, but for such a small issue, I'd recommend trying a different software first since the IRS processes e-filed returns much faster.

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I had a similar tiny equity ownership last year. My CPA explained that Form 8990 only applies if your business interest expense is actually limited - not just because you have a K-1. Since your loss is only $16.50, there's basically no limitation to calculate. Also, fun fact: 8990 is totally different from Form 990 (for non-profits) which confused the heck out of me at first lol.

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Thanks for mentioning this! Tax form numbers are so confusing. I was mixing up 8990 with 8938 (foreign assets) earlier. Does anyone know if we can see a list of which forms we actually need based on our situation? I feel like tax software just throws random forms at us.

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The IRS has Publication 535 (Business Expenses) which includes a section on business interest expense limitations that might help clarify when Form 8990 is actually required. You can also check the instructions for Form 8990 itself - they have a flowchart on page 2 that walks through the exemptions. For your specific situation with such a small loss, you're definitely overthinking this. The business interest expense limitation rules were designed to prevent large corporations from excessively deducting interest, not to catch small investors with minimal losses. Your $16.50 loss wouldn't trigger any meaningful limitation even if the rules did apply to you. If you want to be 100% certain, you could always prepare your return both ways - once assuming you need Form 8990 and once without it - and see if there's any actual difference in your tax liability. I'm betting the difference would be exactly $0.

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This is exactly the kind of practical advice I needed! I'll definitely check out Publication 535 and the Form 8990 instructions flowchart. The idea of preparing the return both ways to see if there's any actual difference is brilliant - I bet you're right that it would be $0 difference for such a tiny loss. It's reassuring to hear that these rules were designed for large corporations, not small investors like me. Sometimes the tax code feels like it's trying to catch every possible scenario, even when it doesn't make practical sense. Thanks for putting this in perspective!

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I went through this exact same situation two years ago with a small partnership investment. The key thing to remember is that Form 8990 is only required if you actually have business interest expense that's subject to limitation - not just because you received a K-1. Since your loss is only $16.50 and you confirmed Box 20 doesn't have Code AH checked, you're definitely exempt. The issue with TurboTax is that it often defaults to requiring forms based on the presence of certain schedules rather than analyzing whether you actually meet the filing requirements. Here's what worked for me: I contacted the partnership directly and asked them to confirm whether they made the small business election (Section 163(j)(3)). Most partnerships with gross receipts under $27 million elect out of these rules entirely. Once I had that confirmation, I was able to override TurboTax's warning and e-file successfully. Don't let the software stress you out over a $16.50 loss - the IRS isn't going to audit you for not filing a form you're clearly exempt from!

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This is really helpful advice! I hadn't thought about contacting the partnership directly to confirm their small business election status. That seems like the most definitive way to get clarity on whether Form 8990 applies to my situation at all. You're absolutely right that it's ridiculous to stress over a $16.50 loss - when you put it that way, it really highlights how these software warnings can blow things out of proportion. I'm going to reach out to the partnership tomorrow and ask about their Section 163(j)(3) election. If they elected out of the business interest limitation rules, that should give me the confidence I need to override TurboTax's warning and move forward with e-filing. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's exactly what I needed to hear as someone dealing with this for the first time!

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I'm dealing with a very similar situation! I have a small K-1 from a real estate investment partnership with about $200 in losses, and TurboTax is also insisting I need Form 8990. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful - especially learning about the Box 20 Code AH check and the small business exemption. I just checked my K-1 and confirmed that Box 20 doesn't have Code AH marked, which according to the advice here means I should be exempt. It's frustrating that tax software doesn't seem to recognize these exemptions automatically, but at least now I know what to look for. For anyone else in this situation, it sounds like the key steps are: 1) Check Box 20 for Code AH (if not checked, you're likely exempt), 2) Confirm the partnership made the small business election, and 3) Override the software warning if you're confident about the exemption. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - this community is a lifesaver during tax season!

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You've got the right approach! Those three steps you outlined are spot-on for anyone dealing with this Form 8990 confusion. I went through the same frustration last year with my small LLC investment, and it's amazing how much clearer everything becomes once you understand what to look for on the K-1. One additional tip that helped me: when I contacted my partnership to confirm their small business election, I asked them to send me a brief email confirming their exemption status. Having that documentation in writing gave me extra peace of mind when overriding the tax software warning. Most partnerships are happy to provide this confirmation since they deal with these questions from multiple investors. The real takeaway here is that tax software errs on the side of caution (sometimes overly so) because it's trying to cover every possible scenario. But for small investors like us with minimal losses, these business interest limitation rules simply don't apply. Your $200 loss situation is virtually identical to the original poster's $16.50 loss - both way too small to trigger any meaningful limitations even if the rules did apply.

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I'm jumping in late to this conversation, but wanted to share that I just went through this exact scenario last month. Small partnership investment, tiny loss (mine was -$23), and TurboTax throwing the Form 8990 warning at me. After reading through all the helpful advice here, I followed the steps everyone outlined: checked Box 20 (no Code AH), contacted my partnership to confirm their small business election status, and then confidently overrode TurboTax's warning. My return was e-filed and accepted without any issues. What really struck me is how this thread demonstrates the value of community knowledge over just blindly following tax software warnings. The software is designed to be cautious, but sometimes that caution creates unnecessary stress for situations that clearly don't warrant it. A $16.50 loss triggering business interest expense limitation forms is the perfect example of when human judgment needs to override algorithmic warnings. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - it's exactly this kind of practical advice that helps newcomers navigate tax season without losing their minds over software glitches!

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This is such a perfect summary of the whole situation! I'm new to dealing with K-1s and partnership investments, and honestly, when TurboTax started throwing Form 8990 warnings at me, I panicked thinking I was missing something major. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been incredibly reassuring. It's fascinating how tax software can create so much anxiety over what turns out to be a non-issue. Your point about human judgment overriding algorithmic warnings really resonates with me - sometimes common sense needs to prevail over what the software thinks is required. A loss under $25 triggering complex business interest limitation forms does seem pretty absurd when you step back and think about it. I'm definitely bookmarking this thread for future reference. The step-by-step approach everyone has outlined (check Box 20, confirm partnership election status, override if exempt) is going to save me so much stress if I encounter this again next year. Thanks for sharing your successful resolution - it gives me confidence to move forward with my own similar situation!

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I'm a tax preparer and see this Form 8990 confusion constantly with small partnership investors. Your situation is textbook exempt - with only a $16.50 loss and no Code AH in Box 20 of your K-1, you absolutely do not need to file Form 8990. The business interest expense limitation (Section 163(j)) was enacted to prevent large corporations from over-leveraging, not to catch small investors with minimal losses. Think about it logically - what business interest expense could possibly be limited on a $16.50 loss? Here's my professional advice: Override TurboTax's warning and e-file. The software is being overly cautious because it sees a K-1 and defaults to assuming complex forms might be needed. But the IRS instructions are clear - without Code AH checked and with such a minimal amount, you're exempt. If you're still nervous, print out the Form 8990 instructions and read the exemptions section. You'll see that your situation clearly falls under multiple exemptions. Don't let tax software create stress over something that's a complete non-issue for your tax situation.

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Thank you so much for the professional perspective! As someone who's completely new to K-1s and partnership investments, having a tax preparer confirm that this is a common issue is incredibly reassuring. Your point about thinking logically - what business interest expense could possibly be limited on a $16.50 loss - really puts things in perspective. I appreciate the advice to actually read through the Form 8990 instructions and exemptions section. Sometimes when tax software starts throwing warnings, it's easy to assume you're missing something complex, but it sounds like the IRS instructions would make it pretty clear that my situation is exempt. Your comment about the software being overly cautious because it sees a K-1 makes perfect sense. It's probably programmed to flag potential issues rather than analyze whether those issues actually apply to the specific situation. I feel much more confident about overriding the warning and moving forward with e-filing now. Thanks for taking the time to provide professional guidance to help us small investors navigate this confusion!

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