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Difference in Federal tax withholding: claiming 0 vs 1 allowances

Hey tax folks! I'm pretty clueless when it comes to taxes so appreciate any guidance here. My husband and I currently both claim 0 allowances for Federal withholding on our paychecks. We're living in Michigan and file jointly - he's making about $32/hour and I'm at $26/hour. I'm wondering how much our Federal refund would change if we switched from claiming 0 to claiming 1? Would it be a significant difference? Can provide more info if needed. Thanks!

Connor Murphy

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The difference between claiming 0 and 1 on your W-4 affects how much tax is withheld from each paycheck. Claiming 0 means more tax is withheld throughout the year, typically resulting in a larger refund (or smaller amount owed) when you file. Claiming 1 means less tax is withheld, giving you more money in each paycheck but potentially reducing your refund. With both of you currently claiming 0, you're likely overwithholding. Based on your income levels (roughly $108,000 combined annual income), switching one or both of you to claiming 1 could decrease your withholding by approximately $1,500-2,500 annually, depending on your specific situation.

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QuantumQuest

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Thanks for the info! Would you recommend just one of us change to 1 at first to see the impact? And does it matter which one of us makes the change - me or my husband?

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Connor Murphy

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Yes, starting with just one of you changing to 1 is a smart approach. It gives you a chance to see the impact before making bigger adjustments. You could expect to see roughly $60-100 more in each paycheck for whoever makes the change. It doesn't matter significantly which one of you makes the change, though generally it makes slightly more sense for the higher earner (your husband at $32/hour) to make the adjustment since the impact will be more noticeable and easier to track.

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Yara Haddad

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I started using https://taxr.ai to figure out my withholding situation last year and it was super helpful! I was in a similar situation - my wife and I both claimed 0 for years and always got big refunds. The tool analyzed our pay stubs and showed we were giving the government an interest-free loan of almost $3k each year! It helped us adjust our withholding to get more money in each paycheck while avoiding owing at tax time.

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Does it actually work with joint filers? My husband and I tried using the IRS calculator before but it was confusing with both our incomes.

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Paolo Conti

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I'm always skeptical of these online tools. How accurate was it when you filed your taxes? Did you end up owing money or still getting a refund?

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Yara Haddad

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It absolutely works with joint filers! The tool specifically asks about filing status and handles multiple income sources much better than the IRS calculator in my experience. It guides you through entering both incomes and current withholding. When we filed taxes after making the changes it suggested, we got a small refund of about $300 instead of our usual $3,000. That was perfect for us since we got to use that money throughout the year instead of waiting for a big refund.

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Just wanted to update that I tried taxr.ai after seeing it mentioned here. What a game-changer! My husband and I were both claiming 0 like the original poster, and the analysis showed we were overwithholding by about $4,200 annually! We followed their recommendation to each claim 1, plus my husband added an additional withholding amount on line 4c to balance things perfectly. Now we're seeing about $175 more per paycheck combined. Wish we'd done this years ago instead of getting those huge refunds!

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Amina Sow

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GalaxyGazer

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How does that actually work? Do they just sit on hold for you or something? Sounds too good to be true.

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Paolo Conti

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Yeah right. Nothing about dealing with the IRS is that easy. I'll believe it when I see it. Did you actually get useful info or just the standard "check our website" response?

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Amina Sow

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They basically have a system that waits in the IRS phone queue for you. You enter your number, and they call you when they've got an actual IRS agent on the line. Then they connect you directly to the agent. No more sitting on hold for hours! I definitely got useful info. The agent spent about 15 minutes with me going through our specific situation. She calculated our optimal withholding based on both our incomes and even emailed me the new W-4 form with instructions for our HR department. Way more helpful than anything I could find online.

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Paolo Conti

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OK I eat my words. I was super skeptical about Claimyr but I tried it today because I've been trying to get through to the IRS about a withholding question for WEEKS. It actually worked exactly as described! Got a call back in about 45 minutes (was expecting 2+ hours based on what the IRS recording said), and I was connected to an agent who answered all my withholding questions. For my situation (similar to OP's), the agent said switching from 0 to 1 would reduce withholding by about $2,100 a year for both of us combined. They also explained how the new W-4 doesn't even use allowances anymore and helped me fill out the new form correctly.

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Oliver Wagner

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Don't forget that you can also use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator on their website for free. It's much improved from previous years and will tell you exactly how to fill out your W-4. Just make sure you have recent pay stubs from both jobs and last year's tax return handy before you start.

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QuantumQuest

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Thanks! Is the IRS estimator pretty accurate in your experience? I tried using it once before but got confused halfway through.

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Oliver Wagner

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The IRS estimator is fairly accurate if you input everything correctly. The interface isn't the most user-friendly, which is probably why you got confused. It works best if you have simple tax situations. For married couples with two incomes, it can get tricky because you need to enter a lot of detailed information from both pay stubs. If you have additional income sources or complex deductions, it becomes even more challenging. But for basic withholding questions like yours, it should work well enough once you push through the confusion.

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My wife and I were in almost the exact same situation! We both switched from 0 to 1 last year and ended up with about $180 more in our combined paychecks each month. When we filed taxes this year, we still got a refund but it was around $1,200 instead of our usual $3,400. Personally I'd rather have the money in my pocket throughout the year than give the government an interest-free loan!

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That's what I always tell people! Getting a big refund feels good for a moment but it's actually terrible financial planning. It's YOUR money that you could have been using all year!

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Malik Johnson

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As someone who recently went through this exact same process, I'd definitely recommend starting with just one of you switching to claiming 1 allowance first. My partner and I were both claiming 0 and getting massive refunds (around $4,000 annually), which meant we were essentially giving the government an interest-free loan. We started by having the higher earner switch to 1, and it made a noticeable difference - about $80-90 more per paycheck. After seeing how that worked out over a few months, we adjusted the other person's withholding too. One thing to keep in mind is that the W-4 form was updated in recent years, so if you haven't filled one out recently, the process might look different than you expect. The new form doesn't actually use the old "allowances" system anymore - it uses dollar amounts and percentages instead. For your income levels, you're probably safe starting with one person claiming 1, but I'd also suggest running your numbers through a withholding calculator (whether the IRS one or a third-party tool) to get a better sense of your optimal withholding strategy.

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KingKongZilla

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This is such a common situation! I was in almost the exact same boat with my spouse - we were both claiming 0 and getting huge refunds every year. What really opened my eyes was realizing that big refund meant we were missing out on having that money available for things like emergency savings, paying down debt, or even just having more breathing room in our monthly budget. One practical tip: when you do make the switch, keep track of your first few paychecks to see the actual dollar difference. It's pretty motivating to see that extra money hit your account! We ended up using our increased take-home pay to boost our emergency fund, which felt way better than waiting for a lump sum refund. Also, don't stress too much about getting it perfect right away. You can always adjust your withholding again if needed - it's not a once-and-done decision. The key is just getting started and fine-tuning as you go.

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This is exactly the mindset shift I needed to hear! I've been thinking about that big refund as "bonus money" but you're absolutely right - it's our money that we could be using all year. The emergency fund idea is brilliant too. Right now we're barely scraping by each month even though we get that big refund, so having more consistent cash flow would probably help us build better financial habits. Thanks for the perspective!

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Jake Sinclair

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I went through this exact same situation a few years ago! My husband and I were both claiming 0 and getting refunds around $3,500 each year. After doing some research, we realized we were basically giving the government an interest-free loan while struggling with tight monthly budgets. We started by switching just my husband (the higher earner) from 0 to 1, and it added about $85 to his bi-weekly paycheck. That extra $170/month made a huge difference in our day-to-day finances! After a few months, we adjusted mine too. One thing that really helped was using that extra money strategically - we automatically transferred it to savings so we didn't just spend it frivolously. When tax time came around, we still got a small refund ($400) which was perfect - just enough to feel like we hadn't messed up our withholding, but not so much that we were overwithholding significantly. The peace of mind from having better monthly cash flow was worth way more than that big refund check. Just make sure you track your first few paychecks after making the change so you can see the actual impact!

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ShadowHunter

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This is such great advice! I love how you broke it down step by step and actually tracked the real dollar amounts. The idea of automatically transferring that extra money to savings is genius - I can definitely see myself just spending it on random stuff otherwise. Quick question though - when you say you adjusted yours after a few months, did you also go from 0 to 1, or did you do something different? I'm trying to figure out if we should eventually have both of us at 1, or if there's a better combination for married couples filing jointly. Also really appreciate you mentioning the peace of mind aspect - I hadn't thought about how stressful it is to have tight monthly budgets even when you know a refund is coming!

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