Determining value date for gift stock shares - gift tax implications
Trying to figure out when the IRS considers a stock gift "official" for tax valuation. I'm gifting some shares to family members and need to know if the value is determined when I sign/mail the transfer forms, when my broker receives them, or when the actual transfer is completed. This probably sounds like a first-world problem, but our family has been fortunate financially, and I want to make sure I'm doing this right. I had assumed the value was determined on the date the transfer actually completes, so I calculated how many shares to give based on a price about 10% below the 2025 gift tax exclusion limit ($19K for individuals or $38K for couples). But now the stock has jumped about 8% in the four days since I overnighted the transfer forms (sent on 1/2/25), and I'm worried that if it climbs a few more percentage points, I'll exceed the limit and have to file a gift tax return with the IRS. Anyone know the official rule on this?
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Natasha Petrova
The IRS considers the gift complete on the date you deliver the stock to the recipient or their agent with no strings attached. For securities that require transfer through a brokerage, this typically means the date the forms are properly executed and mailed (assuming you use a reliable delivery method like certified mail or overnight delivery). Specifically, Treasury Regulation 25.2511-2(b) states that a gift is complete when the donor has "parted with dominion and control" over the property. Once you've signed those transfer forms and mailed them, you've essentially given up your control over those shares. So in your case, your gift value would be determined based on the fair market value (typically the mean between high and low trading prices) on January 2, 2025 - the date you sent the properly executed transfer paperwork. The subsequent 8% increase shouldn't affect your gift tax situation.
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Javier Hernandez
•Wait, so it's the date you MAIL the forms? Not when the transfer is completed? So if I mail stuff on Dec 31 but the broker doesn't process until January, it still counts for the previous tax year?
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Natasha Petrova
•Yes, it's the date you mail the properly executed transfer forms - assuming you've done everything in your power to complete the gift. The IRS looks at when the donor surrenders dominion and control over the asset. For your December 31st example, yes - if you properly execute all required documents and mail them (with proof of mailing) on December 31st, the gift is considered complete for that tax year, even if the brokerage doesn't process it until January. This is why getting proof of mailing (certified mail receipt, overnight tracking, etc.) can be important for year-end gifts.
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Ravi Patel
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Freya Andersen
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Freya Andersen
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Omar Zaki
The other commenters are correct about the date being when you mail the forms, but make sure you're using the correct valuation method too. The IRS considers the fair market value to be the mean between the high and low trading prices on the gift date (not the closing price). So for example, if your stock traded between $90-$110 on your gift date, the value for gift tax purposes would be $100 per share. This can make a significant difference for volatile stocks or when you're right at the annual exclusion limit.
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Oliver Becker
•Thanks for mentioning this! I was just using the closing price. Is there an easy way to find the high/low for a specific date, or do I need to dig through trading data?
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Omar Zaki
•Most financial websites like Yahoo Finance will show you the daily high and low if you look at the historical data for a specific date. Just search for your stock, go to the historical data section, find your gift date, and you'll see columns for high and low. Take the average of those two numbers. Some brokerages also provide this information in their research tools. And if you're using tax software to file a gift tax return (if needed), many of them have built-in securities valuation tools that will automatically calculate the correct mean value for you when you enter the security and date.
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CosmicCrusader
One thing nobody's mentioned - keep REALLY good documentation. Store copies of: 1) The signed transfer forms 2) Proof of mailing (tracking or certified mail receipt) 3) Screenshot or printout showing stock's high/low prices on gift date 4) Brokerage statements showing the shares leaving your account I got audited over a stock gift in 2023 and having this documentation saved me thousands. The IRS initially claimed I undervalued the gift but backed off immediately when I showed them my documentation proving the correct date and valuation.
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Chloe Robinson
•Is a regular USPS receipt enough or do you need certified mail?
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CosmicCrusader
•For something this important, I strongly recommend certified mail or an overnight service with tracking. You want proof not just that you mailed something, but exactly WHEN you mailed it, since the date determines the valuation. This is especially important for year-end gifts or situations like yours where the stock price is volatile. The difference of even one day could push you over the annual exclusion limit. The small cost of certified mail or overnight service is nothing compared to the hassle of filing a gift tax return or dealing with potential questions later.
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GalacticGuru
Based on everyone's advice here, it sounds like you're in good shape! Since you mailed your properly executed transfer forms on January 2nd, that should be your gift valuation date regardless of when the broker actually processes the transfer or how much the stock has moved since then. Just make sure you have that proof of mailing (hopefully you used certified mail or overnight delivery with tracking) and can document the stock's high/low prices on January 2nd to calculate the mean value for gift tax purposes. Even with the 8% jump since then, your gift value is locked in at the January 2nd price. This is actually a perfect example of why the IRS uses the "dominion and control" test rather than waiting for actual transfer completion - otherwise gift values would be at the mercy of processing delays that are completely outside the donor's control.
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