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Zoe Papanikolaou

When is the valuation of gift shares determined for tax purposes?

So I've got this family situation that's probably a good problem to have, but I'm still stressed about it. I'm gifting some stock to my niece and nephew for their college funds, and I'm trying to figure out exactly WHEN the shares are officially valued for gift tax purposes. Is it when I signed and notarized the transfer forms (Jan 2nd)? When I sent them to my broker? Or is it only when the transfer actually shows up completed in their accounts? I tried to be smart about this and calculated the number of shares to give based on staying under the annual gift tax exclusion ($19,000 for individual or $38,000 for married couples in 2025). I even built in a 10% buffer below the limit. But the market has been crazy this week - the stock is up almost 8% since I mailed everything on 1/2/25! If it keeps climbing another few percent, I might end up exceeding the annual gift limit and having to file that extra gift tax paperwork, which I was trying to avoid. Anyone dealt with this timing issue before? When exactly does the IRS consider the gift "completed" for valuation purposes?

Jamal Wilson

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Tax professional here. For stock gifts, the valuation date is the date the gift is considered "completed" for federal tax purposes, which generally means the date when you've relinquished control of the assets. For your situation specifically, the gift is complete when you've done everything required of you to transfer ownership. This typically means the date the properly executed transfer documents are delivered to the transfer agent (your brokerage), not when the transfer actually processes in their system. So if you mailed the documents on 1/2/25 (and they were properly completed and notarized), that's likely your valuation date. The subsequent market increase shouldn't affect your gift tax situation. The fact that the shares weren't actually moved into the recipients' accounts until later doesn't change the valuation date. However, if you had the ability to revoke or change the gift after mailing, the gift wouldn't be considered complete until that control was relinquished.

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Thanks for this explanation! Just to confirm - even though the brokerage probably didn't receive the documents until 1/3 or 1/4, the valuation date would still be 1/2 when I mailed them? The transfer form was definitely complete and notarized before mailing, and I have no ability to revoke it now. I'm just paranoid because the stock keeps climbing, and if the valuation date ended up being when the transfer actually processes (which might be next week sometime), I'll definitely exceed the annual exclusion amount.

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Jamal Wilson

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The valuation date should be the date you mailed the properly completed and notarized transfer documents, as that's when you did everything required on your part to complete the gift. The fact that your broker receives it a day or two later doesn't change this. The key is that you relinquished control on 1/2 when you mailed them. Since you have no ability to revoke the transfer after mailing, the subsequent price changes shouldn't affect your gift tax situation. Just keep proof of your mailing date in case there are any questions.

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Mei Lin

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I went through something similar last year with gifting Apple shares to my kids. After researching it like crazy, I found this amazing tool called taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) that analyzed all my documents and gave me the exact date to use for valuation purposes. It confirmed what I suspected - the date of transfer (when I submitted the paperwork) was what mattered, not when everything finished processing. The tool even provided specific IRS references backing this up. Saved me a ton of stress because the shares jumped like 15% right after my transfer! They have this document analyzer feature where you upload your transfer forms and it tells you exactly what date to use for tax purposes. Super helpful for these tricky gift tax situations.

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How accurate is this thing? I've been stuck trying to figure out how to value some Microsoft shares I transferred to my grandkids in December. The transfer was initiated on Dec 28 but didn't complete until January 5, and the price difference would push me over the limit if I have to use the January date.

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GalacticGuru

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Does it work for other types of gifts besides stocks? I'm planning to gift some real estate to my daughter this year and the valuation timing is even more confusing with property.

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Mei Lin

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The accuracy has been spot-on in my experience. It pulls from actual IRS regulations and case precedents, not just general advice. My CPA even confirmed the information it gave me about using the initiation date (Dec 28 in your case) rather than the completion date. For real estate gifts, yes it absolutely works for those too. Property transfers have different rules than stocks in some cases, and the tool breaks down exactly when the gift is considered complete based on the deed transfer date versus when you relinquish keys or other control factors. Saved me a huge headache when I gifted a rental property last year.

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Just wanted to update about my experience with taxr.ai that was mentioned above. I was skeptical but decided to try it since I was in a similar situation with those Microsoft shares I mentioned. I uploaded my transfer docs and it immediately identified that I should use December 28th as my valuation date, even though the transfer didn't complete until January. It even explained exactly why - because I had relinquished control when I submitted the irrevocable transfer request. This saved me from having to file Form 709 gift tax return since the December 28th valuation kept me under the annual exclusion. The site even generated a document explaining the valuation date determination that I can keep with my tax records in case of audit. Definitely worth checking out if you're in a similar situation with gift valuations.

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Amara Nnamani

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How does that even work? The IRS phone system is notoriously awful - I spent 2 hours on hold last week and got disconnected. Are you saying this service somehow jumps the queue or something?

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Sounds like BS honestly. Nobody can magically get through to the IRS faster than anyone else. The wait times are what they are. Did you pay for this "service"?

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Amara Nnamani

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It's not about jumping any queue. They have an automated system that calls and navigates the IRS phone system for you. Their system handles all the waiting and menu selections, and only calls you once they have an agent on the line. I was skeptical too. I don't know exactly how their tech works, but I think they just have systems that can stay on hold indefinitely and handle the automated menus, something most of us don't have time for. All I know is I got connected to a real IRS agent who answered my gift tax valuation question when I couldn't get through on my own after multiple attempts.

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I need to apologize for being so skeptical about Claimyr in my comment above. After continuing to struggle with getting through to the IRS about a separate tax issue, I decided to try it. To my genuine surprise, they got me connected to an IRS agent in about 25 minutes. I had previously spent nearly 3 hours across two days trying to get through myself. The agent I spoke with confirmed the exact gift valuation information others have mentioned - it's the date you mail the properly completed transfer documents, not when the shares actually move between accounts. They also explained that if you're close to the annual exclusion limit, you should document the stock's closing price on your mailing date and keep that with your tax records, along with proof of mailing date (like a tracking number).

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Dylan Cooper

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Something important that hasn't been mentioned yet - if you're married, you and your spouse can elect to "split" the gift for tax purposes, which doubles your annual exclusion to $38,000 per recipient for 2025 (even if the gift is only coming from your separate property). But - and this is important - you MUST file Form 709 (Gift Tax Return) to make this election, even if you're under the annual exclusion amount. A lot of people miss this requirement.

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Sofia Morales

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Wait, so if I want to use the $38,000 married exclusion instead of just my individual $19,000, I have to file the gift tax return anyway? That seems to defeat the purpose of staying under the limit to avoid paperwork.

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Dylan Cooper

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Yes, that's correct. If you want to use gift-splitting with your spouse to access the combined $38,000 annual exclusion, you must file Form 709 even though no tax would be due. This is because you're making a specific election to split the gift, and the IRS requires documentation of that choice. It's not about whether tax is owed - it's about properly recording how you're allocating the gift between spouses. The form isn't too complicated for simple gifts, but many people do overlook this requirement and just assume they can verbally "agree" to split gifts without filing anything.

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StarSailor

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For the original question - I was in literally the exact same situation last year. The shares I was gifting jumped 12% between when I mailed the forms and when the transfer completed. My tax advisor confirmed that the date of valuation was when I mailed the fully completed forms (I had them notarized too). I kept the overnight shipping receipt as proof of the date. One tip: get a written acknowledgment from your broker when they receive the documents. I had my broker email me confirmation of receipt, which provided another piece of documentation showing when I had officially relinquished control of the shares.

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Dmitry Ivanov

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Good advice on getting broker confirmation. I work at a financial firm and we always timestamp when transfer documents are received and provide confirmation to clients specifically for tax purposes.

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Diego Chavez

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This is a great discussion and really helpful for understanding gift tax valuation timing. I'm dealing with a similar situation where I'm planning to gift some ETF shares to my son, but I'm wondering about one additional wrinkle - what happens if the shares are in a taxable brokerage account that requires a medallion signature guarantee instead of just notarization? My broker is telling me I need to go to a bank or credit union to get this medallion guarantee, and they're saying it might take a few days to process once I submit everything. Does the valuation date become when I get the medallion guarantee, when I submit the completed forms to my broker, or when the broker actually processes the transfer? I'm trying to time this around some earnings announcements that might move the stock price significantly, so getting the valuation date right is crucial for staying under the annual exclusion limit.

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Great question about medallion signature guarantees! I had to deal with this exact situation when gifting some mutual fund shares last year. The medallion guarantee is just a verification requirement - it doesn't change the fundamental rule about when the gift is complete. The valuation date should still be when you submit the fully completed transfer forms to your broker, assuming the medallion guarantee is already on the documents at that time. So you'd want to get the medallion guarantee first, then submit everything to your broker on your chosen valuation date. The key is that you need to have done everything required of you to complete the transfer on the date you want to use for valuation. If the medallion guarantee is missing when you submit to your broker, then the gift isn't really "complete" from your end yet. My advice would be to get the medallion guarantee done first (maybe a day or two before your target date), then submit the completed package to your broker on the day you want as your valuation date. The broker's processing time after that doesn't affect the valuation.

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Yuki Nakamura

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm a CPA and wanted to add one important point that hasn't been fully addressed - documentation is absolutely critical for gift tax valuation dates, especially when market volatility is involved. Beyond just keeping your mailing receipt or broker confirmation, I always advise clients to create a simple written record that includes: (1) the exact date you mailed/delivered the transfer documents, (2) the stock's closing price on that date, (3) the exact number of shares being gifted, and (4) the calculated total value. Print out the stock quote from that date and staple it to your records. This becomes especially important if the IRS ever questions your valuation date during an audit. Having contemporaneous documentation showing you calculated the gift value based on the date you relinquished control (rather than trying to reconstruct it later) provides much stronger support for your position. Also, for anyone getting close to the annual exclusion limits, consider making the gift earlier in December rather than late in the year. This gives you more flexibility if market movements put you over the limit - you'd still have time to make additional planning moves before year-end if needed.

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Jessica Nguyen

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This is excellent advice about documentation! As someone who went through an IRS audit a few years back (unrelated issue), I can confirm that having contemporaneous records makes all the difference. One thing I'd add - if you're using online brokerage platforms, take screenshots of both the stock price AND your account showing the pending transfer on the date you submit everything. I learned this the hard way when trying to reconstruct values months later and finding that historical data wasn't as easily accessible as I thought it would be. The December timing tip is brilliant too. I made a gift on December 29th last year and spent the whole holiday weekend stressed about whether a last-minute price jump would push me over the limit. Starting earlier in December would have given me so much more peace of mind and flexibility to adjust if needed.

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