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Fatima Al-Suwaidi

Conflicting information about self-employment tax rates - who can you trust?

I'm getting really frustrated with all the contradicting tax advice out there. I understand not trusting TikTok for tax info, but I expect better from "reputable" sources. I was just reading a Forbes article on Apple News written by someone who's supposedly a respected tax attorney, and they wrote: "Self-employment tax can add a whopping 15.3% on top of income taxes. That 15.3% applies up to the wage base of $147,000, with 2.9% tax thereafter on any excess over the wage base. There's no limit on that 2.9%, even if you earn millions. In short, self-employment tax is nothing to sneeze at." But this is wrong, isn't it? As far as I know, the self-employment Medicare tax is actually 2.9% up to $200K AGI for single filers or $250K AGI for married filers, and then it increases to 3.8% for income above those thresholds. If "experts" in major financial publications can't get basic tax facts straight, how are regular people supposed to know what's correct? This is my first year with significant self-employment income and I'm worried about calculating my taxes correctly.

Dylan Cooper

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You're right to be skeptical, and you've actually caught a real error! The Forbes article is outdated or incorrect on the Medicare portion. The self-employment tax does have two components: Social Security (12.4%) and Medicare (2.9%), which total the 15.3% mentioned. The Social Security portion only applies up to the wage base limit ($168,600 for 2025), but the standard Medicare portion (2.9%) applies to all earnings with no cap. Where the article got it wrong is the Additional Medicare Tax. Once your income exceeds $200,000 (single) or $250,000 (married filing jointly), an additional 0.9% Medicare tax kicks in. For self-employed folks, this effectively raises your Medicare tax from 2.9% to 3.8% on income above those thresholds. It's definitely frustrating when published experts make these kinds of mistakes. Always double-check tax information against the IRS website when you can!

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Thanks for confirming! I thought I was going crazy. Do you know if the wage base limit for Social Security is actually $147,000 or $168,600? The article says one thing but you mentioned another amount.

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Dylan Cooper

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The wage base changes each year based on inflation adjustments. For 2024, it's $160,200, and for 2025, it's projected to be around $168,600. The article you read might be using older data - it definitely wasn't $147,000 for 2024 or 2025, so that's another inaccuracy! The best place to confirm these numbers is directly on SSA.gov or IRS.gov since they update the official figures annually. This is why tax articles can become misleading if they don't specify which tax year they're discussing.

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Sofia Morales

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StarSailor

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Does it actually calculate everything for you or just explain the rules? I'm trying to figure out how much to set aside for quarterly payments this year since I just started freelancing.

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Dmitry Ivanov

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I'm skeptical of any online tax tool that isn't one of the major players. How do you know their calculations are accurate? Has anyone verified this against what the IRS actually expects?

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Ava Garcia

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Zainab Ismail

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I think the Forbes article might have been technically correct but just explained it poorly. The 15.3% is Social Security (12.4%) + Medicare (2.9%). The Social Security part only applies up to the wage base (which changes yearly). The Medicare 2.9% applies to all SE income. The ADDITIONAL 0.9% Medicare tax (which brings it to 3.8% total) kicks in at higher income levels ($200k/$250k). The article maybe just didn't mention this additional tax? Either way, I agree that tax info is confusing. I always double check the IRS website and cross-reference with Publication 15 and Publication 334.

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But that's still wrong - the total isn't 3.8%. The Additional Medicare Tax is 0.9%, which when added to the 2.9% regular Medicare tax equals 3.8%. Is that what you meant?

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Zainab Ismail

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Yes, that's exactly what I meant. The base Medicare tax is 2.9% on all SE income. Then the Additional Medicare Tax of 0.9% kicks in at those higher income thresholds, bringing the total Medicare portion to 3.8% (2.9% + 0.9%). I should have been clearer in my wording. Thanks for pointing that out. This conversation perfectly illustrates how even small differences in how tax concepts are explained can lead to confusion!

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Has anyone else noticed that the wage base for Social Security taxes increases every year? In 2023 it was $160,200, up from $147,000 in 2022. For 2025 it's expected to be around $168,600. This is why old articles can be misleading - tax numbers change annually but articles rarely get updated!

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Yara Nassar

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The wage base is tied to the National Average Wage Index so it automatically increases with inflation. It's gone up dramatically in recent years because wages have been rising so quickly. You can always find the current wage base on SSA.gov rather than relying on articles that might be using outdated numbers.

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Thanks for explaining that! I didn't realize it was tied to wage inflation. Makes sense why it's been jumping up so much these past few years. I'll bookmark the SSA site for future reference.

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