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Danielle Campbell

Can crypto gains be offset from stock loss carryforward? Need definitive answer ASAP

Hey everyone, I'm in a bit of a tax situation and could really use some help from anyone who knows their stuff. I've been carrying forward some pretty substantial losses from my stock investments over the past couple years (made some really bad calls during that tech correction). Now I'm looking at some decent gains from my crypto holdings that I'll probably realize before year end. My big question is: can I use my stock loss carryforward to offset these crypto gains? Or are they considered totally different categories for tax purposes? And going forward, will my crypto losses/gains be lumped together with stock losses/gains in the same bucket? I've been Googling this for hours and keep finding conflicting info. Some places say yes, others are vague, and I just want a straight answer before I make any moves. Really appreciate any help from those who've dealt with this before! Thanks!

Rhett Bowman

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Yes, you can absolutely use your stock loss carryforwards to offset your crypto gains. The IRS treats cryptocurrency as property (not currency), so capital gains and losses from crypto transactions fall under the same capital gains tax rules as stocks. Both your stock losses and crypto gains are reported on Schedule D of your tax return. They're considered the same type of transaction for tax purposes - capital transactions. So if you have $10,000 in stock loss carryforwards and $7,000 in crypto gains this year, you can use $7,000 of your loss carryforward to completely offset those gains, leaving you with $3,000 in remaining loss carryforward. Remember that you can also use up to $3,000 of capital losses to offset ordinary income each year if your losses exceed your gains. Any unused losses after that continue to carry forward to future tax years.

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Abigail Patel

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Thx for this info! Quick follow up - does it matter if the crypto gains are short term vs long term when offsetting with stock losses? Like if I've been holding my crypto for over a year but my stock losses were from trading I did within the year they happened?

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Rhett Bowman

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Great question! When offsetting gains with losses, the IRS requires you to first apply losses to gains of the same type. So short-term losses first offset short-term gains, and long-term losses first offset long-term gains. If you have excess losses of one type, those can then be applied to the other type. If you have long-term crypto gains and short-term stock loss carryforwards, you'd first use your short-term losses to offset any short-term gains you have. Any remaining short-term losses would then be applied to your long-term crypto gains. The holding period doesn't reset when you carry forward losses - they maintain their original character as either short-term or long-term.

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Daniel White

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I went through exactly this situation last year and was totally confused until I found taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai). They analyzed my trading history and confirmed that crypto gains can definitely be offset by stock losses since the IRS treats both as capital assets. I uploaded my trading statements from both my stock brokerage and my crypto exchanges, and their system automatically calculated how my previous stock losses offset my crypto gains. It even showed me how much carryforward I had left for future years. The whole process saved me hours of research and probably prevented me from making a costly mistake.

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Nolan Carter

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Does taxr.ai work with all the major crypto exchanges? I've got stuff spread across Coinbase, Binance and a couple smaller ones. And does it handle all those weird DeFi transactions too?

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Natalia Stone

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I'm skeptical of these tax tools. How does it handle stuff like crypto staking rewards or mining income? Those aren't treated the same as regular capital gains/losses, right?

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Daniel White

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Yes, taxr.ai works with all the major exchanges including Coinbase and Binance, plus most of the smaller ones too. They have direct API connections that can import your full trading history. For DeFi transactions, you can upload CSV files or wallet addresses, and they'll trace and categorize those transactions too. For staking rewards and mining income, you're right that these are treated differently. Taxr.ai categorizes these as ordinary income at fair market value when received, which is how the IRS views them. Then when you sell those coins, it calculates the capital gain/loss based on the difference between your selling price and that initial value. The system handles all these different situations automatically.

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Natalia Stone

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Just wanted to update about my experience with taxr.ai since I was skeptical in my earlier post. I decided to try it this weekend and I'm actually impressed. I uploaded 3 years of crypto transactions (including a bunch of confusing DeFi stuff), and it correctly identified which of my stock losses could offset my crypto gains. The system even flagged some wash sales I didn't realize I had made when I sold and repurchased similar assets within 30 days. It showed me exactly how the carryforward works between tax years. Wish I'd known about this sooner instead of spending hours trying to figure it out myself. Their explanations made the rules much clearer than any of the articles I'd been reading.

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Tasia Synder

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Yeah right, nobody gets through to the IRS these days. I've been on hold for HOURS multiple times this year. If this actually works I'll eat my hat.

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Tasia Synder

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Ok I need to eat my words (and my hat). I tried Claimyr after posting my skeptical comment because my curiosity got the better of me. After three failed attempts to reach the IRS on my own about my crypto/stock situation, Claimyr actually got me through to a real person in about 40 minutes. The IRS rep confirmed exactly what others have said here - crypto gains can absolutely be offset by stock loss carryforwards because they're both considered capital assets. She also explained some nuances about how mining income is treated differently. Honestly still shocked this service actually worked after all my frustration trying to call myself.

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Ellie Perry

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Just to add another data point, I actually hired a CPA specifically for this issue last year. Stock losses can 100% offset crypto gains - they both go on Schedule D and Form 8949. The only thing that matters is whether they're short-term or long-term. Remember also that if your total losses (from both stocks and crypto) exceed your total gains by more than $3k in a year, you can only deduct $3k against other income. The rest carries forward. I learned this the hard way thinking I could deduct my entire $15k net loss in one year lol.

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Landon Morgan

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Do you need to identify specific lots when you're calculating crypto gains/losses? Like if I bought Bitcoin multiple times at different prices, can I choose which "lot" I'm selling to minimize my gains?

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Ellie Perry

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Yes, you can use specific identification for crypto just like with stocks, which can be a huge tax advantage. When you sell, you can choose which specific "lots" you're selling rather than using a first-in-first-out (FIFO) method. This means you can select the lots with the highest cost basis to minimize your gains or maximize your losses. Just make sure you have proper documentation showing when each lot was acquired and for how much. Most good crypto tax software (and certainly any decent CPA) will help you optimize this. If you don't specify which lots you're selling, the IRS default assumption is FIFO.

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Teresa Boyd

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Will tax software like TurboTax handle this crypto/stock offset correctly? Or do I need something more specialized?

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Lourdes Fox

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TurboTax does handle this, but you need to make sure you have all your transactions properly documented. I found it got confusing with lots of transactions. Last year I used CoinTracker to organize all my crypto stuff first, then imported that summary into TurboTax. Worked pretty well.

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AstroAlpha

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This is exactly the kind of situation where having proper documentation is crucial. I went through something similar last year - had about $8k in stock losses carried forward from 2022 and realized $12k in crypto gains in 2023. The good news is yes, you can absolutely offset them. Both are treated as capital assets on Schedule D. What saved me was keeping detailed records of every transaction - dates, amounts, cost basis, etc. The IRS doesn't care whether your losses came from Apple stock or your gains came from Bitcoin - they're all capital transactions. One thing to watch out for: if you're actively trading both stocks and crypto, make sure you're not running into wash sale rules. The IRS hasn't explicitly applied wash sales to crypto yet, but it's something to be aware of if you're buying and selling similar assets within 30 days. Also, since you mentioned needing an answer "ASAP" - if you're planning to realize those crypto gains before year end, consider the timing. You might want to realize them in smaller chunks to see exactly how much of your carryforward you'll use up, especially if you think you might have more gains or losses next year.

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This is really helpful advice about the documentation! I'm dealing with a similar situation but have been pretty sloppy with my record keeping. Do you have any recommendations for going back and reconstructing transaction history? Some of my older crypto exchange accounts don't have great export features and I'm worried I'm missing some trades from 2022. Also wondering about your point on timing - if I have say $15k in stock loss carryforward and expect maybe $10k in crypto gains this year, would it make sense to realize all the gains now to use up more of that carryforward? Or should I spread it across tax years?

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