Can an LLC with US and Foreign Owners Apply for United States Residency Certification Form 8802?
Title: Can an LLC with US and Foreign Owners Apply for United States Residency Certification Form 8802? 7 Hi everyone, I need some advice regarding Form 8802 (Application for United States Residency Certification). I have an LLC with a mixed ownership structure: - 51% owned by a US resident (myself) - 24.5% owned by a foreign partner (based in Germany) - 24.5% owned by another foreign partner (based in Japan) I'm wondering if our LLC would qualify for US residency certification and if we'd be able to get Form 6166 with this ownership structure. We're planning to do business with some companies in South Korea, and they're asking for this certification for tax treaty benefits. Has anyone gone through this process with a similar LLC ownership structure? Any insights would be appreciated! Thanks in advance!
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Beatrice Marshall
14 This is a great question about Form 8802 for mixed-ownership LLCs. The key factor here is how your LLC is treated for tax purposes. If your LLC is treated as a partnership (which is the default for multi-member LLCs), the residency status is determined at the partner level, not the entity level. Since you have foreign partners, the IRS won't certify the LLC itself as a US resident. However, you as the 51% US resident partner can apply for Form 8802 and receive Form 6166 certification for your portion of the LLC's income. If your LLC has elected to be taxed as a corporation, then the residency is determined by where the entity is organized (incorporated). Since your LLC was formed in the US, it would qualify as a US resident regardless of owner citizenship. You'll need to complete Form 8802 and specify the type of entity and certification year. Make sure to include documentation showing how the LLC is taxed.
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Beatrice Marshall
•9 Thanks for the info. My LLC is taxed as a partnership. So if I understand correctly, I can still get Form 6166 but only for my 51% portion? Would that satisfy foreign business partners who are asking for a US residency certificate? Also, do I need to provide any additional documentation about the ownership structure?
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Beatrice Marshall
•14 You're right that you can get Form 6166 for your 51% portion. Whether this satisfies your South Korean business partners depends on their specific requirements - they may be looking for entity-level certification for withholding tax purposes. For the application, you'll need to provide your EIN, a signed Form 8802, user fee payment, and potentially proof of your filing status. I'd recommend including a statement clearly explaining the ownership structure and attaching your partnership tax return (Form 1065) from the most recent year to demonstrate how income is allocated.
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Beatrice Marshall
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Beatrice Marshall
•17 How exactly does taxr.ai help with the actual Form 8802 submission? Does it just review documents or does it help with the actual filing process? My situation is even more complicated because one of our foreign partners has a trust involved.
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Beatrice Marshall
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Beatrice Marshall
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Beatrice Marshall
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Beatrice Marshall
5 After my 8802 application was rejected twice for my multi-owner LLC, I was about to give up on getting certified for our business in Japan. Spent hours on hold with the IRS trying to understand why we kept getting rejected. Someone on another forum recommended https://claimyr.com to actually get through to an IRS agent. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c I was skeptical but desperate. They got me connected to an IRS rep in the Philadelphia office who specializes in international certification within 20 minutes. The agent explained exactly why our application kept getting rejected (we were using the wrong tax year documentation) and walked me through what to submit. This saved me months of back-and-forth and we finally got our certification!
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Beatrice Marshall
•22 Wait, so this service basically just calls the IRS for you? Couldn't you just do that yourself? Seems like a waste of money when you can just keep calling until you get through.
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Beatrice Marshall
•16 How much does this cost? I've been trying to reach someone at the IRS about my 8802 rejection for weeks with no luck. I'm ready to try anything at this point!
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Beatrice Marshall
•5 It does call the IRS, but the difference is they use a system that navigates the IRS phone tree and waits on hold so you don't have to. I had previously spent over 3 hours on multiple calls trying to reach someone before getting disconnected. The real value was getting connected to an actual specialist in the Philadelphia office who handles Form 8802 applications specifically. When you call the general IRS line yourself, you rarely get routed to someone who understands the nuances of residency certification for mixed-ownership entities.
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Beatrice Marshall
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Beatrice Marshall
8 Have you considered restructuring your LLC to be 100% US-owned? I had a similar issue and eventually created a US holding company that owned 100% of the LLC. The foreign partners then owned shares in the holding company. Made getting the residency certification much simpler, though there are obviously legal costs to setting this up.
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Beatrice Marshall
•7 That's an interesting approach. Would this restructuring have any negative tax implications for the foreign partners? I'm concerned about creating a more complex structure just for the certification, but if it significantly simplifies the process, it might be worth looking into. How much did the legal work cost for setting this up?
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Beatrice Marshall
•8 There can be tax implications for foreign partners, particularly around effectively connected income and branch profits tax considerations. The cost for legal work was around $5,000 for us, but it varies widely depending on complexity. The main benefit was simplifying ongoing compliance - not just for Form 8802 but for all our international contracts. Many countries really struggle with the concept of a partially-foreign-owned US LLC and how to apply tax treaties. Having a clear US entity made everything cleaner.
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Beatrice Marshall
19 You might also want to check which tax treaty benefits you're actually trying to access with South Korea. I do business there, and depending on what type of income you're receiving, the US-Korea tax treaty has different requirements for certification. Some provisions only look at where the entity is formed, while others require substantive presence and ownership.
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Beatrice Marshall
•13 This is really important! When we were doing business in Asia, we discovered that the actual treaty language with different countries varied significantly. Some treaties focus more on the entity's place of formation while others look through to the ultimate beneficial owners. Worth checking the specific US-Korea provisions for your type of income.
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Diego Fernández
Based on my experience with mixed-ownership LLCs, I'd recommend getting clarity on exactly what your South Korean partners need before investing too much time in the Form 8802 process. In my case, I had a similar ownership structure (55% US, 45% foreign) and went through the entire Form 8802 application process, only to find out that the Korean company actually needed entity-level certification for their withholding tax compliance, not partner-level certification. Since your LLC is taxed as a partnership, you'll only get certification for your 51% portion as others mentioned. But many foreign companies expect a single certificate covering 100% of the entity's income for their tax reporting purposes. I'd suggest having a direct conversation with your Korean partners about whether partial certification will work for their needs, or if you need to explore the corporate tax election route to get entity-level certification. Could save you a lot of time and potential rejections.
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Ryder Greene
•This is excellent advice! I'm actually dealing with a very similar situation right now with a Japanese company that's asking for residency certification. They initially said they needed "US tax residency documentation" but when I dug deeper, it turned out they specifically needed entity-level certification for their Japanese tax filings. The distinction between partner-level and entity-level certification is crucial and often gets lost in translation when dealing with foreign partners. I've learned to always ask for the specific form or document name they need rather than just accepting general descriptions. Diego, did you end up restructuring your LLC or finding another solution? I'm trying to decide between going through the corporate tax election process or just explaining to our Japanese partners that we can only provide partial certification.
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