Can I write off expenses for my DIY gallery space if I don't sell anything or make profit?
I've been running this small DIY art gallery space in my community for about 2 years now. I collaborate with local artists to put on events and exhibitions, but I don't make any money from it - no commission from sales, no vendor fees, nothing. It's purely a passion project. The thing is, I'm spending quite a bit of my own money on it (lighting, display materials, promotional stuff, refreshments for openings, etc.). I'm wondering if there's any way I can write off these expenses on my taxes? I'm not registered as a business or nonprofit or anything. I guess I could register as some kind of business, but since I have zero income from this and honestly never plan to make money from it, I'm not sure if that makes sense or would even work. Basically, I just want to know if there's any legitimate way to deduct all these gallery-related expenses I'm paying out of pocket. Is this possible if I'm not actually generating any revenue? Or am I just out of luck since this is technically just a hobby that costs me money?
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Amina Toure
Tax professional here. This is a classic "hobby vs. business" question, and unfortunately, the IRS has pretty specific rules about this. Since 2018 and the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, hobby expenses are no longer deductible at all, even if you had income from the hobby. To write off expenses, your activity needs to qualify as a business, which generally means you have a profit motive. The IRS uses a "profit test" - generally expecting you to show profit in 3 out of 5 consecutive years (though this isn't an absolute rule). Even without current profit, you could potentially qualify as a business if you operate in a businesslike manner and can demonstrate intent to eventually make money. This might include having a business plan, separate business accounts, and marketing efforts. Another option worth exploring is setting up as a nonprofit organization, which would align with your community-focused arts mission. This is more complex but might be worth it if you plan to continue long-term.
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Oliver Weber
•Thanks for this info! I've heard about the nonprofit route but isn't that super complicated? Also, if I did try to claim it as a business, would I need to start charging something to show I'm trying to make money eventually? Or could I just document everything really well and say I'm building community goodwill before monetizing?
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Amina Toure
•Setting up a nonprofit is definitely more involved than a simple business registration, requiring formal organization, board establishment, and filing for tax-exempt status with IRS Form 1023. It's substantial work but might be worth it if you're committed to this long-term. For claiming business status without current profit, you wouldn't necessarily need to charge immediately, but you would need to demonstrate a clear path to eventual revenue. This could include a written business plan showing how you intend to monetize eventually - perhaps through future commissions, workshops, or other revenue streams. Documenting your activities, keeping excellent records, and maintaining separate finances are all crucial. Building goodwill can be part of a legitimate business strategy, but you'd need to show how that translates to potential future income.
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CosmicVoyager
Have you considered registering as a 501(c)(3) nonprofit? That seems like the most straightforward approach for your community art space. You'd need to file Form 1023 with the IRS, create bylaws, establish a board, etc., but then donations would be tax-deductible for donors and you could apply for grants too. Your mission sounds perfectly aligned with nonprofit status.
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Paolo Esposito
•I've thought about the nonprofit route but honestly it seems overwhelming. Do I need a lawyer to set that up? And would I have to have an actual board of directors with meetings and all that? It's just me running this little gallery out of a converted garage, so it all seems like overkill, but maybe I'm underestimating the benefits?
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CosmicVoyager
•You don't absolutely need a lawyer, though having one review your paperwork is helpful. There are services that can guide you through the process for much less than attorney fees. And yes, you would need a board of directors - typically minimum 3 people including yourself. They could be friends or family who support your mission. For a small operation like yours, you might consider fiscal sponsorship instead. This is where you operate under an existing nonprofit's umbrella. You'd maintain creative control while they handle the administrative/tax side. Many community arts organizations offer this service for a small percentage fee. This gives you many nonprofit benefits without creating an entire organization structure yourself.
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Ravi Kapoor
Might be a silly question but could u just start charging a tiny admission fee like $1 or something? Then ur technically a business trying to make money right? Even if it's super minimal, wouldn't that help with the business vs hobby thing?
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Freya Nielsen
•Not a silly question! But unfortunately it's not quite that simple. The IRS looks at the overall pattern and intent, not just whether you charge something nominal. Charging $1 admission that doesn't come close to covering costs might actually reinforce that it's a hobby rather than a genuine profit-seeking business. They look at your overall approach, whether you have business plans, separate accounting, etc. It's more about demonstrating genuine business intent rather than just token income.
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