Can I use annual exclusion for UGMA/UTMA gifts if age of termination is over 21? Present vs future interest question
I've been trying to set up some UGMA/UTMA accounts for my nieces and nephews, but I'm confused about how this affects gift tax. Looking at Form 709 instructions (from 2004, page 4), it states: >A gift to a minor is considered a present interest if all of the following conditions are met. [...] 2. All remaining property and its income must pass to the minor on the minor's 21st birthday. Here's where I'm stuck - my state allows custodians to set the age of termination for UGMA/UTMA accounts higher than 21. I was planning to set it at 25 since honestly I don't think they'll be responsible enough at 21. If I do set the termination age above 21, does this mean I've created a gift of future interest rather than present interest? And if so, does that mean I can't use the annual gift tax exclusion and would have to use part of my lifetime exemption instead? I'd rather not burn through my lifetime exemption if I can avoid it.
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Sean Doyle
You've spotted an important nuance in the gift tax rules. Yes, you've identified the issue correctly. For a gift to qualify for the annual gift tax exclusion ($18,000 for 2025), it must be a gift of "present interest" - meaning the recipient can immediately use, possess, or enjoy the gift. The IRS considers UGMA/UTMA accounts as present interest gifts ONLY if the funds will be distributed to the minor when they reach age 21. If you set the termination age higher (like 25), the IRS views this as a "future interest" gift since the beneficiary can't fully access the funds at 21. Future interest gifts don't qualify for the annual exclusion. So in your situation, if you set up UGMA/UTMA accounts with termination at age 25, you would need to use part of your lifetime gift tax exemption when filing Form 709. That said, with the current lifetime exemption being over $13 million per person, many people aren't concerned about using some of it.
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Zara Rashid
•Thanks for the explanation. What if I contribute to an existing UGMA account that's already set for age 25? Would that still be considered a future interest gift? Also, does this apply the same way if I'm gifting stocks rather than cash?
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Sean Doyle
•Contributing to an existing UGMA account already set for age 25 would still be considered a future interest gift. The determining factor isn't when you make the gift, but when the beneficiary gets full access and control. If that's delayed beyond age 21, it remains a future interest gift regardless of what you're contributing. This applies equally to stocks, cash, or any other assets you might gift to the UGMA/UTMA account. The nature of the asset doesn't change the present/future interest determination - it's all about when the beneficiary gains complete control of the property.
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Luca Romano
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Nia Jackson
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NebulaNova
•How long did the analysis take? I'm literally in the middle of setting up accounts for my grandkids right now and filing the 709 next week. Not sure if I have time for a whole consultation process.
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Luca Romano
•Their advice was spot-on - I had my regular accountant verify it afterward. It's not just keyword searching; it actually parsed the details of my custodial account agreements and correctly identified the termination age issue. It even referenced the specific section of Form 709 instructions and relevant tax court cases about UGMA/UTMA accounts and present interest. The analysis took about 15 minutes from upload to getting my full report. Not a consultation process at all - it's automated but extremely thorough. You just upload your documents and it does the work. Perfect for time-sensitive situations like yours with the grandkids' accounts.
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Aisha Khan
•How does this actually work? I've tried calling the IRS for weeks about my situation (different from OP's but still gift tax related). Do they just keep redialing for you or something?
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Ethan Taylor
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Mateo Hernandez
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Ethan Taylor
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Yuki Ito
Adding another perspective - if you don't want to use your lifetime exemption but still want the funds controlled until 25, consider a minor's trust (2503(c) trust) instead of UGMA/UTMA. These are specifically designed to qualify for the annual gift tax exclusion while still providing extended control. The trust must distribute assets to the beneficiary at 21, BUT you can include a provision that gives the beneficiary a limited window (like 30-60 days) to withdraw the assets when they turn 21. If they don't exercise this right, the assets remain in trust until the later age you designate. Since they had the opportunity to access the funds at 21, it qualifies as a present interest gift.
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Anastasia Fedorov
•This is really interesting! I hadn't heard about this option. Does this mean the beneficiary could potentially take everything at 21 if they wanted to, but if they don't exercise that right, it stays locked up? How complicated/expensive is it to set up compared to a standard UGMA account?
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Yuki Ito
•Yes, that's exactly how it works. The beneficiary has a window (typically 30-60 days) after turning 21 where they could withdraw everything if they wanted to. Most beneficiaries don't exercise this right if they understand the trust will continue to protect and grow their assets. Some trusts include a letter from the grantor explaining their wishes, which often persuades the beneficiary to leave the funds in trust. It is more expensive to set up than a UGMA - typically $1,500-3,000 for an attorney to draft. Also more administrative work with separate tax returns. But the control benefits and tax advantages often outweigh these costs, especially for larger gifts or situations where you really want to prevent a 21-year-old from potentially accessing a significant sum.
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Carmen Lopez
One option nobody's mentioned - if your state allows you to select the termination age, couldn't you just set up the UGMA/UTMA to terminate at 21 (qualifying for annual exclusion) but then talk to your nieces/nephews when they're approaching 21 about the importance of not spending it all? If you've built good financial values in them and they trust you, they might voluntarily keep the money invested based on your guidance rather than spending it. I did this with my own kids - their accounts legally terminated at 21, but we had good conversations about preserving the assets for education, housing, etc. They ended up keeping most of it invested until their mid-twenties anyway.
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AstroAdventurer
•But that's totally dependent on the kids' personalities. My brother and I both got UGMA money at 21. I kept mine invested for a house down payment. My brother bought a motorcycle and took a trip to Vegas. Same parents, same values taught, completely different outcomes!
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Andre Dupont
I'm confused because my tax advisor told me something different. He said that a UGMA gift is ALWAYS a present interest gift because the income generated is available to the minor immediately (via the custodian), even if the principal is locked until 25. So the gift still qualifies for the annual exclusion. Now I'm not sure what to believe.
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Sean Doyle
•Your tax advisor is unfortunately mistaken. The IRS has been very clear on this in multiple rulings (including Revenue Ruling 73-287). For a UGMA/UTMA gift to qualify as a present interest, ALL of the conditions in the Form 709 instructions must be met, including the requirement that all property and income must pass to the minor at age 21. While it's true that income can be used for the minor's benefit during the custodianship, that alone doesn't satisfy the requirements for present interest treatment if the custodianship extends beyond age 21. I'd recommend getting a second opinion or asking your advisor to show you the specific IRS guidance they're relying on for their position.
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Andre Dupont
•Thanks for the clarification and the specific ruling. I'll definitely bring this up with my advisor - maybe he was thinking of trusts with different rules or something. Really appreciate the info!
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Zoe Stavros
This is a great discussion that highlights how nuanced gift tax rules can be. I wanted to add one more consideration that might help with your decision-making process. If you're concerned about the responsibility factor at age 21 but still want to use your annual exclusion, you could consider making smaller annual gifts to UGMA accounts that terminate at 21, rather than making one large gift that would require using your lifetime exemption. For example, instead of gifting $50,000 now to an account that terminates at 25 (using lifetime exemption), you could gift $18,000 annually for multiple years to accounts terminating at 21. This approach gives you the best of both worlds - you preserve your lifetime exemption while still building substantial assets for your nieces and nephews. By the time they reach 21, they'll have had several more years of maturity, and you'll have had multiple conversations about financial responsibility. Plus, the assets will have had more time to grow. Just something to consider as you weigh your options between the various strategies mentioned here!
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Fatima Al-Maktoum
•That's a really smart approach! I hadn't thought about the annual gifting strategy as a way to balance the tax benefits with the maturity concerns. The idea of multiple conversations over several years while building the accounts is appealing - it gives you more opportunities to assess their financial responsibility and adjust your approach if needed. Plus, if one of them shows they're particularly responsible, you could always supplement with additional gifts later. Thanks for adding this perspective!
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Giovanni Mancini
This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm dealing with a similar situation but with a twist - I'm planning to gift to both UGMA accounts AND a 529 plan for each child. From what I understand, 529 contributions always qualify for the annual exclusion since the beneficiary (or their parent/guardian) can request distributions at any time, even if there are penalties for non-qualified expenses. So I could potentially do $18,000 to a 529 plan (qualifying for annual exclusion) plus additional amounts to UGMA accounts set to terminate at 25 (using lifetime exemption) if I want that extra control. Has anyone here structured their gifting this way? I'm trying to figure out if there are any coordination issues between the two types of accounts that I should be aware of, especially when it comes to financial aid calculations later on. The annual gifting strategy that Zoe mentioned is really smart too - I might combine that approach with 529 funding to maximize my annual exclusions while still building substantial education funds.
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Lena Schultz
•Your approach with combining 529 and UGMA funding is really smart! You're absolutely right that 529 contributions qualify for the annual exclusion since distributions can be requested anytime (even with penalties). One thing to keep in mind for financial aid - UGMA/UTMA accounts are considered the student's assets and hit financial aid eligibility much harder (20% assessment rate) compared to parent-owned 529 plans (5.64% assessment rate). So if maximizing financial aid is important, you might want to weight more heavily toward 529 plans. Also, if you go the route of UGMA accounts terminating at 25 using your lifetime exemption, consider whether the amounts justify the complexity. With the current lifetime exemption being so high ($13+ million), using some of it might not be a big concern unless you're dealing with a very large estate. The annual gifting strategy Zoe mentioned could work really well combined with 529 funding - maybe $10K annually to UGMA (terminating at 21) plus $8K to 529, staying within your $18K annual exclusion while building both types of accounts over time.
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Keisha Johnson
This is such a valuable thread - thank you everyone for sharing your experiences and knowledge! As someone who's been wrestling with similar gifting decisions, I wanted to add one more consideration that might be helpful. If you're looking at larger gift amounts and are concerned about the complexity of trusts but still want more control than standard UGMA/UTMA accounts provide, some states offer "Enhanced UGMA" or "UGMA Plus" accounts. These allow you to set specific distribution schedules (like 1/3 at 21, 1/3 at 25, 1/3 at 30) while still potentially qualifying for annual exclusion treatment, depending on how they're structured. The key is that the first distribution must occur at 21 to maintain present interest status, but subsequent distributions can be delayed. It's like a middle ground between the simplicity of regular UGMA accounts and the complexity of formal trusts. Not all custodians offer these enhanced options, so you'd need to shop around. But it might be worth exploring if you want more control than age 21 termination but less complexity than setting up formal trusts for each beneficiary. Has anyone here worked with these enhanced UGMA products? I'd be curious to hear about real-world experiences with them.
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