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Can I use Section 179 to depreciate HVAC installation for my primary residence with partial short-term rental?

I converted the basement of my primary residence into a short-term rental last year, and I'm trying to figure out the depreciation for a mini-split heat pump system I installed. The rental takes up about 32% of my home's square footage. In 2024, the basement was rented for 143 days and I only used it personally for 10 days, so that's roughly 93.5% rental usage. Here's my current depreciation setup: - I'm classifying it as non-residential real property (39-year depreciation) because it's a short-term rental - The cost basis of my home (minus land value) is around $810K - The rental portion cost basis is approximately $259K (32% of total) - Annual depreciation is ($259K × 0.935)/39 = $6,212 I installed a new $12,800 mini-split HVAC system in 2024, and I calculated the rental portion as $12,800 × 32% × 93.5% = about $3,835. My question is: Can I use Section 179 to deduct the entire $3,835 for the 2024 tax year? I believe I qualify since my rental is occupied more than 51% of the time, it counts as a business, and the amount is way below the Section 179 limit. If Section 179 isn't the right approach, would bonus depreciation be better? Or should I just use the standard 39-year depreciation schedule? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

You're on the right track with your calculations, but there's an important distinction to make with Section 179 and residential rentals. Generally, Section 179 cannot be used for property used for lodging (like your short-term rental). However, there's an exception for property used in a dwelling unit that you rent to others for short stays (like yours). Since you're operating this as a business with short-term rentals, this exception likely applies to you. For the HVAC system, since it's an improvement to the building itself, it would typically follow the same depreciation period as the building. But in your case, the HVAC unit could potentially qualify for bonus depreciation instead of Section 179. For 2024, bonus depreciation is at 60% (it's being phased down), so you could immediately deduct 60% of the $3,835, which is $2,301, and then depreciate the remaining $1,534 over 39 years. Make sure you're keeping excellent records of all your calculations, receipts, and the business use percentage. This will be important if you're ever audited.

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Thanks for the explanation - I'm still confused about one thing: I thought Section 179 had a specific exception for short-term rentals? Something about if the average rental period is less than 30 days? My rentals average about 3.5 days each. Also, would it be better for me to take the bonus depreciation or just do regular depreciation over the 39 years?

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You're absolutely right about the Section 179 exception. The tax code does provide an exception for property used in a dwelling unit if it's rented on average for periods of 30 days or less. With your 3.5-day average stays, you should qualify for this exception, making the HVAC improvement potentially eligible for Section 179. Whether bonus depreciation or regular depreciation is better depends on your specific tax situation. If you expect higher income in 2024 than future years, taking the larger deduction now through bonus depreciation might be advantageous. If you expect higher income in future years, spreading the deduction over 39 years might be better. Consider consulting with a tax professional who can look at your complete financial picture.

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One thing nobody has mentioned yet is that you need to be careful about the QBI (Qualified Business Income) deduction when deciding between Section 179 and regular depreciation. Taking a large upfront deduction might reduce your QBI for the year, which could affect your overall tax situation. Also, don't forget that if you ever sell your home, any depreciation you've taken (including Section 179 or bonus depreciation) will be subject to depreciation recapture at a 25% tax rate. Something to consider in your long-term planning.

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I hadn't even thought about the QBI implications - that's a really good point. Do you know if there's a general rule of thumb for when it's better to take Section 179 vs. spreading the depreciation out longer term? My adjusted gross income is around $145k if that makes a difference.

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With an AGI of $145k, you'd likely benefit from maximizing your QBI deduction if possible. Generally, it's better to take Section 179 when you're in a higher tax bracket in the current year than you expect to be in future years. For your specific situation, I'd recommend running the numbers both ways - calculate your taxes with Section 179 and then with regular depreciation to see which gives you the better overall result. The difference in your case might be relatively small since we're talking about $3,835, but it's still worth analyzing. The depreciation recapture is definitely something to keep in mind for long-term planning, especially if you think you might sell within the next 5-10 years.

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Hmm, I think everyone's missing something important here. The mini-split heat pump might actually qualify as 5-year property under MACRS, not 39-year property. HVAC equipment is typically considered 5-year property when it's not a structural component of the building. Since mini-splits are somewhat standalone systems (unlike central HVAC that's built into the structure), you might be able to depreciate it much faster even without Section 179 or bonus depreciation.

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Is that really true? I thought anything attached to the building automatically follows the building's depreciation schedule. My accountant told me my ductless mini-split had to be depreciated over 39 years for my rental.

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There's a distinction between components that are structural to the building versus equipment that serves the building but isn't part of its structure. Mini-splits often fall into a gray area, but there's precedent for classifying them as 5-year property under asset class 00.241 (HVAC equipment). The key factors are how permanently it's attached and whether removing it would damage the building structure. Many mini-splits can be removed without significant structural impact, which strengthens the case for 5-year classification. The IRS has allowed this treatment in several cases, though it's not guaranteed. Your accountant may be taking the most conservative approach to avoid audit risk. If you want to use the 5-year classification, you should document why your specific installation qualifies.

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This is a great discussion with some really valuable insights. Based on everything shared here, it sounds like you have a few solid options for your mini-split depreciation: 1. **Section 179**: Given your 3.5-day average rental period (well under 30 days), you should qualify for the short-term rental exception. This would let you deduct the full $3,835 in 2024. 2. **5-year MACRS**: As Cole mentioned, mini-splits often qualify as equipment rather than building components. This could be a middle ground - faster than 39 years but spread over 5 years instead of all at once. 3. **Bonus depreciation**: 60% immediate deduction for 2024, then depreciate the remainder. Given your $145k AGI, I'd lean toward either Section 179 or the 5-year MACRS approach. The immediate deduction from Section 179 could be valuable at your current tax bracket, but you'll want to consider the QBI implications Jasmine mentioned. One thing to keep in mind: whichever method you choose, make sure you're applying it consistently to similar improvements. The IRS likes consistency in depreciation methods across similar assets. Have you considered getting a second opinion from a tax professional who specializes in rental properties? With the complexity of short-term rental taxation, it might be worth the investment to ensure you're maximizing your deductions while staying compliant.

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This is really helpful - thank you for breaking down all the options so clearly! I'm leaning toward Section 179 since it seems like the most straightforward approach given my short average rental period. One follow-up question: if I go with Section 179 for the mini-split, does that lock me into using Section 179 for other similar improvements I might make in future years? For example, I'm planning to upgrade the water heater next year - would I need to use the same depreciation method for consistency, or can I evaluate each improvement separately? Also, regarding getting a second opinion from a rental property specialist - does anyone have recommendations for finding one? My current CPA is great for general tax prep but doesn't seem as familiar with the nuances of short-term rental taxation.

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