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Chad Winthrope

Can I use Roth IRA funds to pay for Private High School tuition?

Hey tax folks, I'm in a bit of a financial bind with my kids' education expenses. I've been saving in a Roth IRA for about 12 years now (opened it back in 2013), and it's grown to around $47,000. My twins are starting private high school next fall, and the tuition is going to be about $15,000 per year for each kid. I've heard mixed things about using Roth IRA money for education expenses. I know college is definitely covered as a qualified expense, but what about private high school? Can I withdraw some of my contributions (not the earnings) without penalties to help cover these costs? Or am I limited to only using it for college expenses? I'm 43 now and don't want to mess up my retirement, but these next four years are going to be really tight financially. Any guidance would be super appreciated!

Paige Cantoni

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You're asking a good question about Roth IRAs and education expenses. The key distinction here is between contributions and earnings, and between qualified and non-qualified education expenses. With a Roth IRA, you can always withdraw your original contributions (what you put in) at any time, for any reason, without penalties or taxes. This is true regardless of your age or how long the account has been open. So if you've contributed $30,000 of that $47,000, you could take out up to $30,000 penalty-free. However, there's an important distinction for education expenses. The education exception for penalty-free withdrawals of earnings only applies to qualified higher education expenses (college, university, vocational school), not K-12 private school tuition. If you withdraw earnings for private high school, you'll pay a 10% penalty plus income tax on those earnings. My advice? If you need to tap your Roth, only withdraw your original contributions, not any earnings. And consider if there are other options before using retirement funds for education.

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Kylo Ren

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Does this apply to 529 plans too? I thought the tax law changed a few years ago to allow 529 plans to be used for private K-12 education, not just college. Wouldn't it make more sense to use a 529 instead of touching retirement savings?

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Paige Cantoni

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You're absolutely right about 529 plans - the tax laws did change with the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017. You can now use 529 plan funds for K-12 private education tuition, up to $10,000 per year per beneficiary. This is different from Roth IRAs. If the original poster has 529 plans already set up for their children, that would indeed be a better option than using retirement savings. The 529 funds used for K-12 tuition would be both tax-free and penalty-free, unlike Roth IRA earnings withdrawals for the same purpose.

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Mason Stone

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Have you considered a Coverdell ESA (Education Savings Account) instead? Unlike 529 plans which were only recently expanded to cover K-12, Coverdell accounts have always been usable for private elementary and secondary education expenses. You can contribute up to $2,000 per year per beneficiary if you meet the income requirements. The growth is tax-free when used for qualified education expenses, which definitely includes private high school tuition. Might be worth looking into as an alternative to tapping your retirement funds.

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I actually didn't know about Coverdell ESAs until now. Thanks for mentioning that! Is it too late to set one up if my kids are starting high school next year? And does the $2,000 annual contribution limit make it worth the effort at this point?

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Mason Stone

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It's not too late to set up a Coverdell ESA, but you're right that the $2,000 annual contribution limit is a constraint when you're looking at $30,000 per year in tuition. At this stage, it would only cover a small portion of your expenses. The biggest advantage of starting one now would be if you plan to continue private education through college, as you could continue contributing and growing the account tax-free. Another option some parents use is a combination approach - using some Roth contributions (not earnings) for immediate needs while preserving some of your retirement savings, and supplementing with a Coverdell for future years. The tax-free growth of even small contributions can add up over time.

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Watch out for the impact on financial aid! If you're hoping your kids might qualify for need-based financial aid for college, using Roth IRA withdrawals during the high school years can actually hurt you later. The FAFSA will count those withdrawals as income in the year you take them, even if they're tax-free contribution withdrawals. Higher income on the FAFSA means less financial aid eligibility. This caught my family by surprise and really messed up our aid eligibility for my oldest.

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This is so true! Many people don't realize how retirement withdrawals affect FAFSA. Even though Roth contribution withdrawals aren't taxable income for IRS purposes, they're still included as "untaxed income" on the FAFSA. We got hit with this last year and lost about $8,000 in grants.

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Yara Haddad

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This is a really complex situation that touches on several different tax and financial planning considerations. Based on what you've shared, here are the key points to consider: **Roth IRA Withdrawal Rules:** - You can withdraw your original contributions (the money you put in) at any time without taxes or penalties - However, withdrawing earnings for private K-12 tuition would trigger a 10% penalty plus income taxes - You'd need to track your contribution basis carefully to avoid touching earnings **Alternative Options to Consider:** - 529 plans (as mentioned) can now be used for K-12 private tuition up to $10,000 per year per child - Coverdell ESAs have always allowed K-12 expenses but have low contribution limits - Home equity loans or education loans might preserve your retirement savings **Hidden Gotchas:** - FAFSA impact: Even tax-free Roth withdrawals count as "untaxed income" on financial aid forms, potentially reducing college aid eligibility - Opportunity cost: Money withdrawn now loses years of tax-free growth potential Given that you're 43 and have twins, I'd strongly recommend getting a comprehensive analysis before making any moves. The tools mentioned earlier in this thread (like taxr.ai) could help you model different scenarios and their long-term impacts. You might also want to speak with a fee-only financial planner who can look at your complete financial picture. The fact that you're thinking about this carefully shows you're on the right track - just make sure you understand all the implications before deciding!

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This is exactly the kind of comprehensive breakdown I was hoping to find! I'm new to this community but have been lurking and reading through similar education funding questions. Your point about the FAFSA implications is huge - I never would have thought that tax-free Roth withdrawals could still hurt financial aid eligibility later. The opportunity cost angle really hits home too. At 43, Chad still has over 20 years until typical retirement age, so that money has significant growth potential if left untouched. I'm curious though - has anyone here actually run the numbers on what a $30K Roth withdrawal today might cost in terms of lost retirement value? The earlier mention of $78K impact for a $20K withdrawal sounds pretty significant. Also wondering if there are any income limits or phase-outs for the various education savings options that might affect someone in Chad's situation. The financial planning landscape seems so complex when you're trying to balance current education needs with future retirement security.

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