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Scarlett Forster

Can I start a new LLC while still owing back taxes from my defunct LLC?

So I've been thinking about getting back into entrepreneurship after my previous business venture didn't work out so well. I had an LLC for about 3 years that I had to shut down in 2023, but honestly I still owe the IRS some money from that business. It was around $13,800 in unpaid taxes that I just couldn't cover when everything went south. Now I've got a new business idea that I'm really excited about and want to form another LLC to protect myself, but I'm worried about my tax situation. Does anyone know if the IRS will allow me to form a new LLC when I still have tax debt from my previous one? Will they come after my new business for the old debt? I really don't want my past mistakes to prevent me from trying again, but I also don't want to get myself into more trouble.

Arnav Bengali

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While legally you can form a new LLC even with outstanding tax issues from a previous business, there are some important considerations you need to understand. The IRS doesn't actually prevent you from forming a new business entity when you have tax debt. Forming an LLC is primarily a state-level process, not federal. However, your old tax debt doesn't disappear, and the IRS can still pursue collection activities against you personally if you were personally liable for the previous LLC's taxes. If your old LLC was a single-member LLC or if you signed personal guarantees, the IRS can potentially place liens against your personal assets, levy accounts, and even garnish income from your new business. They won't automatically "come after" your new LLC as a separate entity, but they can certainly come after you as the owner. Your best approach would be to contact the IRS about setting up a payment plan for your old tax debt before launching the new venture. This shows good faith and can help prevent more aggressive collection actions down the road.

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Sayid Hassan

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Thanks for the detailed explanation. But what if the old LLC was a multi-member LLC and not just me as the owner? Does that change anything about personal liability for the tax debt? Also, would getting on a payment plan with the IRS affect my ability to get business loans for the new LLC?

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Arnav Bengali

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If your old LLC was a multi-member LLC taxed as a partnership, each member is typically responsible for their share of the tax liability based on their ownership percentage. The IRS would pursue each member individually for their portion of any unpaid taxes, not the entity itself. Getting on a payment plan with the IRS shouldn't directly prevent you from obtaining business loans, but it may affect your personal credit score if the IRS filed a tax lien. Lenders will see this during their credit check. That said, being on a payment plan shows responsibility and is generally viewed more favorably than having unaddressed tax debt. Some lenders might even require you to resolve or have a plan for tax issues before approving financing.

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Niko Ramsey

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Just to add my experience - I was in a similar situation with about $9k in back taxes from a failed LLC. I started a new one last year while still owing, and the main thing is to be SUPER careful about keeping all your accounting separate. The IRS will potentially try to pierce the corporate veil if they think you're using the new LLC to hide assets from the old debt. I recommend different bank accounts, clear documentation of all startup funding, and maybe even using a different state for incorporation if that makes sense for your business.

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Would changing the ownership structure help too? Like if my wife was the majority owner of the new LLC instead of me? We're thinking of doing this for our new real estate investment business while I still pay off my old web design company taxes.

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Niko Ramsey

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Changing ownership structure could potentially help create more separation, but be careful - the IRS is very aware of this tactic. If they determine the new structure is primarily intended to evade tax collection, they can still pursue actions against the new business. If your wife is legitimately involved in the business operations and brings her own skills/capital to the table, it's more defensible. But if she's just a paper owner while you run everything, that could look suspicious. The key is having genuine business purposes for any ownership decisions rather than just tax avoidance. Also, remember she would then have legal responsibilities as an owner, so make sure she understands what that entails.

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Jabari-Jo

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Has anyone used a tax resolution service to handle the back taxes before starting a new LLC? I've seen ads for companies that claim they can settle tax debt for "pennies on the dollar" but I'm not sure if those are legit or worth the fees.

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Kristin Frank

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Be VERY careful with those "pennies on the dollar" tax resolution companies. Most of them charge thousands upfront and then just submit an Offer in Compromise form that you could do yourself. My brother lost $4,500 to one of these companies and ended up still owing all his original tax debt.

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Micah Trail

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I actually had success with a tax resolution firm, but you need to be selective. The key is finding one that's staffed by former IRS employees or enrolled agents, not just salespeople. I paid about $3k but they got my $31k tax debt from a failed restaurant reduced to $17k and set up a payment plan. Made forming my new construction company much less stressful.

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Nia Watson

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Don't forget to consider state taxes too, not just federal! I paid off my federal taxes from my old LLC but completely overlooked the state tax debt. When I went to register my new LLC, I discovered my state (California) wouldn't let me form a new business entity until I cleared the old tax debt with the state franchise tax board. Had to delay my launch by 2 months while dealing with that mess. Different states have different rules, so check your specific state's requirements before spending money on new LLC formation.

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Wow, that's a really important point I hadn't even considered. I'm in Texas for my businesses, but I'll definitely look into any state-specific requirements. Did you have to completely pay off your state taxes or were you able to set up a payment plan to allow the new LLC formation?

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Nia Watson

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In California, I had to either pay in full or get on an approved payment plan before they would allow the new registration. I ended up paying in full because it was about $3,200 and I just wanted it done with. But I know other states can be more flexible. Texas is generally more business-friendly than California (who isn't, right?), but definitely check with the Texas Comptroller's office. From what I understand, Texas doesn't have the same strict franchise tax block on new formations that California does, but policies change all the time. Better to know before you spend money on filing fees and get denied.

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This is such a common situation for entrepreneurs trying to get back on their feet! I went through something similar when my consulting LLC failed in 2022 and I owed about $8,500 in back taxes. The good news is that you absolutely can form a new LLC while owing taxes from your old one - the IRS doesn't block business formation. However, you need to be strategic about it. The key things I learned: 1. Set up your new LLC properly with completely separate finances - different bank, different EIN, clear documentation of startup capital 2. Address the old debt proactively rather than ignoring it - even a basic installment agreement shows good faith 3. Keep detailed records showing the two businesses are completely separate entities I ended up calling the IRS (after many failed attempts) to set up a payment plan for the old debt before launching my new business. It gave me peace of mind and prevented any collection actions that could have interfered with getting business banking or credit for the new venture. The worst thing you can do is try to hide from the old debt - it won't go away and could create bigger problems down the road. But don't let it stop you from pursuing your new business opportunity either!

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Connor Murphy

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This is really helpful advice! I'm curious about the timeline - how long did it take you to get your payment plan set up with the IRS? I'm eager to move forward with my new business idea but want to make sure I handle the old debt properly first. Also, did having the payment plan in place help when you applied for business banking with your new LLC?

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