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Can I report my auto insurance as a deductible expense on Schedule C?

I'm a self-employed photographer and wondering about reporting my auto insurance as a business expense on my Schedule C. Here's my situation - the car I use for business belongs to my grandfather, and the insurance policy is in his name. I handle all the online payments for him since he's completely hopeless with technology (still uses a flip phone!). Normally what happens is my grandfather gives me cash, I deposit it into my checking account, and then I make the insurance payment online. But for the last three months, I've been super busy with bookings and forgot to collect from him, so I've been paying the full $215 monthly premium myself. Since I use the car about 70% for business travel (going to shoots, meeting clients, etc.), can I claim these insurance payments on my Schedule C? And does it matter that the policy and car aren't actually in my name even though the money is coming from my account? I'd really appreciate any advice before I file for 2025!

This is a great question about business expenses! The short answer is yes, you can potentially deduct a portion of auto insurance on Schedule C, but with some important caveats in your situation. Since you're using the vehicle for business purposes, you can deduct the percentage of business use - in your case 70%. However, the bigger issue is that the vehicle and insurance policy aren't in your name. The IRS generally expects business deductions to be for items you actually own or have a legal obligation to pay. You have two potential approaches: First, you could have your grandfather add you to the insurance policy and vehicle title, creating a more formal arrangement. Second, you could create a written lease agreement with your grandfather where you formally lease the vehicle from him and agree to pay the insurance as part of that arrangement. Without establishing one of these more formal relationships, you might face challenges if audited since you're paying for insurance on someone else's property without a clear business obligation to do so.

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So if my dad lets me use his truck for my landscaping business and I pay him $300 a month to cover the truck payment and insurance, can I deduct that $300 as a business expense if we write up a simple lease agreement? Or do we need something fancy drawn up by a lawyer?

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You don't need anything fancy drawn up by a lawyer - a simple written agreement that clearly states the terms would be sufficient. The agreement should specify that you're leasing the truck for business purposes, the monthly payment amount, what the payment covers (truck use and insurance), the time period of the agreement, and be signed by both parties. Keep a copy with your tax records. For your landscaping business, you'd then deduct the $300 monthly payment as a rental expense on your Schedule C, not as an auto expense. This creates a clean paper trail showing a legitimate business expense if you're ever audited.

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Did you have to create an actual formal lease with your mom or just like a simple written agreement? I'm using my brother's extra car for my food delivery gigs and paying the insurance but we didn't do any paperwork... should I be worried?

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I just created a simple one-page agreement that said I was leasing the car from her for $X per month, which included the insurance coverage. We both signed it and dated it. Nothing fancy or formal, but it creates the paper trail you need in case of questions. I totally get being cautious about financial services online. The difference for me was getting specific guidance for my exact situation rather than general articles. They use bank-level encryption and specifically mentioned they don't store your docs after analysis. I was skeptical too but honestly it was just more efficient than the hours I spent getting conflicting advice from Google searches.

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Have you considered just using the standard mileage deduction instead of actual expenses? Way simpler in your situation. For 2025 it's like 67 cents per business mile. You just keep a log of your business trips and total miles. No need to worry about who owns the car or insurance policy. I used to track all my actual expenses and it was such a headache with receipts and calculating percentages.

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I actually hadn't thought about that! Is the standard mileage deduction usually better than tracking all the actual expenses? I drive about 15,000 miles a year for my photography business (out of maybe 20,000 total). Would I still need to worry about the car not being in my name even if I use the standard deduction?

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At 15,000 business miles, you'd get a deduction of about $10,050 using the standard mileage rate (67 cents × 15,000). That's often better than actual expenses for many people, but it depends on your specific costs. The beauty is you don't need to track insurance, gas, repairs, etc. - just your mileage. For the ownership question, it's murkier with standard mileage. Technically, you should still have legal right to use the vehicle, so a simple written agreement with your grandfather is still a good idea. But in practice, the IRS is mainly concerned that you're accurately tracking business vs. personal miles when you use the standard deduction, rather than focusing on the vehicle's ownership.

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Be really careful here. If the car and insurance aren't in your name and you get audited, the IRS will almost certainly reject the deduction. My cousin tried deducting car insurance for a car in his mom's name for his small business and got hit with penalties when audited. The IRS doesn't mess around with vehicle deductions - they're one of the most commonly abused. Either get added to the policy/title or seriously consider if the potential deduction is worth the risk.

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Not necessarily true! I deducted expenses for a car in my wife's name for years for my business with no issues. The key is documenting the business use and keeping good records. It's pretty common for families to share vehicles for business purposes.

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You might want to lookk into Actual Expense method vs Standard Mileage. For my business, I calculated both ways and Actual Expense gave me a way bigger deduction bc my SUV is expensive to maintane. You can deduct gas, oil changes, tires, all the insurance, car payments, even depreciation! But make it clear how much is business use (thats the part thats deductible). Just my 2 cents but figure out which method benefits you the most!

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I'm dealing with a similar situation for my freelance graphic design work! One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is that you should definitely keep detailed records of ALL payments you make on behalf of your grandfather - not just the recent three months where you forgot to collect from him. The IRS will want to see that this is a legitimate business arrangement and not just you paying personal expenses for a family member. If you've been consistently handling the online payments (even when reimbursed), that actually strengthens your case for having a business relationship with the vehicle. Also consider this: even if you go the standard mileage route like others suggested, having that written agreement with your grandfather is still smart. It protects both of you and shows the IRS this isn't just casual family car borrowing. A simple one-page document stating you use the car for business purposes and contribute to its expenses should be sufficient. One more tip - make sure you're tracking your mileage religiously going forward, regardless of which deduction method you choose. The IRS loves to scrutinize vehicle deductions, so having a solid mileage log is your best defense in any scenario.

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This is really solid advice about keeping records of ALL payments, not just recent ones! I'm new to self-employment tax stuff and didn't realize how important that documentation trail would be. Quick question though - when you say "business relationship with the vehicle," does that mean I should be treating this more like a formal lease arrangement even if my grandfather and I have always kept it pretty casual? Like should I be paying him a set monthly amount instead of just covering expenses as they come up?

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