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Can I qualify for IRC Section 1202 QSBS exclusion for my tech company sale after reorganization from LLC to C Corp?

I've been searching everywhere for information and am completely lost. I even called the IRS directly but was told this is an "advanced question" they couldn't answer. Here's my situation with Section 1202 (Qualified Small Business Stock): - Started a tech company with 2 co-founders back in 2011 as an LLC - In 2013 we reorganized as an S Corp - In October 2018 we converted to a C Corporation (had to call Delaware corporate division today because one co-founder wouldn't share the documentation) - In August 2023 we sold the company, but my co-founders kept me in the dark about the sale details until I was basically handed documents to sign We had no idea about Section 1202 at the time of sale - I just discovered it yesterday while my wife was working on our taxes with TurboTax. I've held these shares since we founded in 2011 - they were original founder shares, not purchased. Is there any possibility I could qualify for the Section 1202 QSBS exemption on my proceeds from the company sale? I was prepared to pay the full tax amount and honestly just relieved to be done with one difficult co-founder. But now learning about 1202, it's devastating to think I might have missed out on a huge tax break by just a couple months! Our company definitely qualified financially as a small business under the asset test. Does anyone have experience with Section 1202 in situations like this with company reorganizations? Any chance I'm eligible?

Your situation is tricky but let me explain how Section 1202 Qualified Small Business Stock (QSBS) works in reorganization scenarios. For Section 1202, shares must be C Corporation shares held for at least 5 years. The clock for that 5-year holding period starts when the entity becomes a C Corporation, not when you founded as an LLC. So in your case, that clock started in October 2018 when you reorganized as a C Corp. Since you sold in August 2023, you held the shares as C Corp stock for less than 5 years (about 4 years and 10 months). Unfortunately, this likely disqualifies you from the Section 1202 exclusion, which requires a full 5-year holding period of C Corp shares. The conversions from LLC to S Corp and then to C Corp reset your holding period for Section 1202 purposes. While you owned the business since 2011, the technical QSBS holding period only begins when the shares exist as C Corp shares. You might want to consult with a tax attorney who specializes in this area to see if there are any exceptions that might apply in your specific case.

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Thanks for the detailed explanation. That's what I was afraid of - being just 2 months short is painful! One follow-up question: Does it matter that I've technically owned the same percentage of the company continuously since 2011, even though the entity type changed? I've heard something about "tacking" holding periods in certain situations. Also, would there be any partial exclusion available, or is Section 1202 an all-or-nothing benefit?

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For Section 1202 specifically, there's no "tacking" of holding periods across different entity types. The 5-year clock restarts when the company converts to a C Corporation, regardless of your continuous ownership. Unfortunately, this is one area where the IRS is quite strict on the technical requirements. Section 1202 is generally all-or-nothing for the holding period requirement. You either meet the 5-year threshold and qualify, or you don't. There isn't a partial exclusion based on how close you were to the 5-year mark. However, you should still explore other tax strategies that might help in your situation, such as installment sales treatment if your sale was structured in a way that payments come over time.

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You might still have options! While the previous commenter is generally right about the 5-year C-Corp requirement, there are exceptions in certain reorganization scenarios that might help. Check if your S-Corp to C-Corp conversion could qualify as a tax-free reorganization under Section 368. In some cases, this can allow "tacking" of holding periods - meaning you might be able to count some of your S-Corp time toward the 5-year requirement. This depends heavily on how the conversion was structured and documented. Also, look into Section 1045 rollover relief as an alternative. If you reinvest the proceeds into another qualified small business within 60 days, you might defer the gain. It's probably too late now, but worth knowing for future reference. What was the exact structure of your sale? Asset sale vs. stock sale makes a huge difference here.

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It was structured as a stock sale, not an asset sale. The conversion from S-Corp to C-Corp was definitely meant to be tax-free, though I'm not sure exactly which section of the code it fell under (one partner handled most of this with the attorneys). Would I need specific documentation showing it was a Section 368 reorganization to qualify for the tacking of holding periods?

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Yes, you would need documentation showing it qualified as a Section 368 reorganization to potentially benefit from holding period tacking. The conversion paperwork and any legal opinions prepared at the time would be crucial. Many S-Corp to C-Corp conversions are done as tax-free reorganizations, but the specific details matter enormously. Since it was a stock sale, that's actually good news for Section 1202 purposes (if you can solve the holding period issue). I'd recommend gathering all your corporate documents from the S-Corp to C-Corp conversion and having a tax attorney review them specifically for Section 368 qualification. Don't just rely on a general CPA for this - you need someone who specializes in corporate reorganizations and Section 1202. The potential tax savings could be substantial enough to justify the specialized advice.

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Slightly different perspective - have you checked if you might qualify for the reduced 50% exclusion rather than the 100% exclusion? The rules vary based on when the stock was acquired as C corp shares. For C corp shares acquired after August 10, 1993 but before February 18, 2009, you can exclude 50% of the gain. For shares acquired after February 18, 2009 and before September 28, 2010, you can exclude 75%. And for shares acquired after September 28, 2010, you can exclude 100%. But this all depends on when the shares were acquired as C corp shares, which in your case sounds like October 2018, so you'd be in the 100% category if you met the holding period.

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This is a good point, but the exclusion percentages only matter if OP meets the 5-year holding requirement first, which seems to be the main issue here. Being 2 months short of 5 years means they likely can't access any of the exclusion percentages.

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I'm really sorry to hear about your situation - being just two months short of the 5-year requirement is incredibly frustrating, especially when you've been with the company since its founding. While the other commenters are correct about the general rule that C-Corp holding periods don't "tack" from previous entity types, there might be one avenue worth exploring given your specific timeline. Since your S-Corp to C-Corp conversion happened in October 2018, you should definitely investigate whether this qualified as a tax-free reorganization under Section 368 of the Internal Revenue Code. If the conversion was properly structured as a Section 368 reorganization (which many S-Corp to C-Corp conversions are), there's potentially an argument for holding period tacking under certain circumstances. This is an extremely technical area of tax law where the specific documentation and structure of your conversion matters enormously. Given the potential tax savings at stake, I'd strongly recommend consulting with a tax attorney who specializes specifically in Section 1202 and corporate reorganizations - not just a general CPA. You'll need someone who can review your conversion documents, operating agreements, and any legal opinions from 2018 to determine if there's any path forward. The fact that you were kept in the dark about sale details is also concerning from a fiduciary duty standpoint, but that's a separate issue. For now, focus on gathering all your corporate documents from the 2018 conversion and get specialized legal advice before your filing deadline.

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This is exactly the kind of detailed advice I was hoping for. You're right that being kept out of the sale discussions was problematic on multiple levels, but I need to focus on the tax implications first since the filing deadline is approaching. I'm going to dig through all the 2018 conversion paperwork this weekend. My co-founder who handled the legal work has been difficult to work with, but I think I can get the documents from our corporate attorney directly. Do you happen to know what specific language or provisions I should be looking for in the documents that would indicate it was structured as a Section 368 reorganization? Also, given how specialized this area is, do you have any recommendations for finding attorneys who specifically handle Section 1202 cases? Most of the tax attorneys I've found seem to focus on more general corporate tax issues.

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