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Can I get a FICA refund for excessive withholding like I can with income tax?

I'm getting pretty big federal and state income tax refunds this year since my taxable income ended up being way lower than I thought it would be for 2024. Basically I had some major deductions I wasn't counting on that really brought down what I owe. So this got me thinking - is there any way to get back some of the FICA taxes (Social Security/Medicare) that were withheld from my paychecks for the same reason? I've noticed that FICA doesn't seem to be included anywhere on my federal or state tax returns when I'm filling them out. Do they handle FICA refunds differently or are we just stuck paying whatever was taken out regardless of our actual taxable income situation?

The short answer is unfortunately no, you can't get a refund on FICA taxes just because your taxable income was lower than expected. FICA taxes (Social Security and Medicare) work differently than income tax. They're calculated on your gross wages regardless of your deductions or credits. Every dollar of wages you earn up to the Social Security wage base limit ($168,600 for 2025) is subject to the 6.2% Social Security tax, and all of your wages are subject to the 1.45% Medicare tax without any income limits. Unlike income tax, which is based on your taxable income after deductions and can be adjusted when you file your return, FICA taxes are determined solely by your earnings. The only time you might get a FICA refund is if your employer incorrectly withheld too much - like if you worked multiple jobs and collectively paid Social Security tax on more than the wage base limit.

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What if I worked for 3 different employers in 2024 and each withheld Social Security tax? I think I probably went over that limit you mentioned. Is there a way to get that back?

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Yes, that's exactly the situation where you could get a refund! If you worked for multiple employers and your combined wages exceeded the Social Security wage base ($168,600 for 2025), you likely had too much Social Security tax withheld. You would claim this excess Social Security tax as a credit on your federal tax return. Look for the line on Form 1040 that says "Excess social security and tier 1 RRTA tax withheld" - you'll need to calculate the excess amount and enter it there. This excess will either increase your refund or reduce what you owe. You'll need your W-2s from all employers to calculate this correctly.

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How accurate is it? I've tried other tax tools that gave me wrong info. Does it just give general advice or does it actually look at your specific situation?

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I'm kinda skeptical of these tax analysis tools. Does it handle multiple states? I moved mid-year and that always messes up my taxes.

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It's really accurate because it actually analyzes your specific documents rather than just giving generic advice. It uses AI to read your W-2s, 1099s, or paystubs and gives personalized guidance based on your exact situation. I was impressed when it caught that my employer had been calculating my withholding incorrectly. It absolutely handles multiple states. I actually had a similar situation working in two different states last year, and it correctly identified how much I had paid to each state and what I needed to do for my state returns. It even pointed out a reciprocity agreement between the states that saved me from double taxation.

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Just wanted to follow up on my skepticism about taxr.ai - I decided to try it out and I've gotta say I'm impressed. I uploaded my W-2s from both states and it immediately identified that I had overpaid in one state due to the move. Also confirmed what others were saying about FICA taxes - they're completely separate from income tax and based just on gross wages. The tool actually found a mistake on one of my W-2s where Box 3 (Social Security wages) included some non-taxable benefits that shouldn't have been there. Saved me around $350 that would have just disappeared otherwise! Definitely worth checking out if you're dealing with tax withholding issues.

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Wait how does this actually work? Do they have some special access to the IRS or something? Seems like magic if they can actually get you through the queue faster.

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Yeah right. The IRS is impossible to reach. I'll believe it when I see it. Been trying for 3 months to talk to someone about my amended return and keep getting the runaround. No way this actually works.

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They don't have special access or let you cut in line - they just automate the waiting process. Basically, their system calls the IRS and navigates through all the automated prompts, then stays on hold in your place. When they detect a human is about to answer, they call your phone and connect you. You don't have to sit there listening to hold music for hours. I was skeptical too! I had been trying for over a month to reach someone about my FICA withholding issue. After using Claimyr, I got through in my first attempt - they called me back about 2 hours after I started the process, and there was an IRS agent ready to talk. Saved me so much frustration, and I finally got my issue resolved after weeks of getting nowhere.

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OK I have to admit I was wrong about Claimyr. After seeing these comments, I decided to give it a shot with my amended return issue that's been dragging on for months. Got a call back in about 3 hours with an actual IRS agent on the line who could see my file. Turns out they had processed my amended return but there was a hold on it because of a mismatch with my FICA wages reported. The agent was able to release the hold right there on the phone. Regarding the original post about FICA refunds - the agent confirmed what others have said here, that you can't get FICA refunds based on lower taxable income, but you CAN if there was actual overwithholding due to multiple employers or errors.

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Small business owner here. One thing no one has mentioned - if you're self-employed, you actually CAN affect how much FICA tax you pay through business deductions. Self-employed people pay both the employer and employee portions of FICA through self-employment tax (15.3% total instead of just the 7.65% employees see). Business deductions directly reduce your self-employment income, which in turn lowers your self-employment tax (the equivalent of FICA). So while W-2 employees are stuck with FICA based on gross wages, self-employed folks can actually reduce their FICA-equivalent taxes through legitimate business deductions.

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Does this mean I should form an LLC for my side gig to save on taxes? I make about $12k a year from freelance work on top of my regular job.

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You don't necessarily need an LLC to get these tax benefits. Whether you're a sole proprietor, single-member LLC, or other structure, you can still claim business deductions that reduce your self-employment tax. The key is properly documenting and deducting legitimate business expenses on Schedule C. For your $12k side gig, focus first on tracking all business expenses like supplies, home office (if you qualify), mileage, software subscriptions, professional development, etc. These deductions will directly reduce both your income tax AND self-employment tax. An LLC might provide liability protection, but it typically doesn't change how you're taxed unless you elect S-Corp status, which probably wouldn't make sense at $12k/year given the additional costs and requirements.

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Has anyone successfully adjusted their W-4 to have less withheld without ending up owing at tax time? I'm tired of getting these huge refunds every year but I'm scared to mess with my withholding.

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I did this last year using the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator tool. Got my refund down from $3200 to about $500. Just make sure you're accurate about all your income sources and deductions or you could end up owing.

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Thanks for the suggestion! I didn't know the IRS had a withholding calculator. Just looked it up and I'm going to use it this weekend. $500 refund sounds much better than what I've been getting. Did you have to submit a new W-4 to your employer or was there an online way to adjust it?

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You have to submit a new W-4 to your employer - there's no way to adjust withholding online directly with the IRS. After using their calculator, it will give you specific instructions on how to fill out the new W-4 form. You'll need to give the completed form to your HR department or payroll person. Just a heads up - if your situation changes during the year (like getting married, having a baby, or major changes in income), you might need to adjust again. I actually had to submit an updated W-4 mid-year when my spouse got a new job because our combined income put us in a different tax bracket. The calculator accounts for this stuff though, so just re-run it whenever your circumstances change.

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This is a great question that I think a lot of people wonder about! To add to what others have said, there's one more scenario where you might see FICA-related adjustments - if you're a minister or work for a church. Religious workers sometimes have unique situations where they can elect out of Social Security coverage or have special withholding arrangements. Also, just wanted to emphasize what Sophie mentioned about the wage base limit. For 2024 (the tax year you're filing for), the Social Security wage base was $160,200. So if you had multiple employers and your total wages exceeded that amount, you definitely want to check if you overpaid Social Security tax. This is pretty common for people who switch jobs mid-year or work multiple high-paying positions. One thing that might help for future years - if you're consistently getting large refunds, it means you're essentially giving the government an interest-free loan all year. You could be putting that extra money into a high-yield savings account or investments instead. The IRS withholding calculator that others mentioned is really helpful for getting your withholding closer to what you'll actually owe.

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