Can I deduct gambling losses from scratch-offs against my big lottery win?
So I hit a pretty big scratch-off jackpot in 2024 and I'm trying to figure out how to handle my taxes for the 2025 filing season. The casino already reported my winnings on a W-2G and withheld taxes when I cashed in. I've kept all my losing scratch-off tickets throughout the year - honestly just tossed them in my glove compartment and eventually moved them to a shoebox at home. I haven't kept any detailed log of when I purchased them or anything like that. Rough estimate, I probably have around $4,000-$5,000 in losing tickets. I'm filing jointly with my spouse, and our tax software is already suggesting we itemize deductions even before I add these gambling losses. I know you can deduct gambling losses up to the amount you won, but only if you itemize. What I'm worried about is: Will adding these scratch-off losses trigger an IRS audit? If they do audit me, are the physical losing tickets enough documentation? What happens if the IRS decides my documentation isn't sufficient - would I just owe the difference with interest, or could there be penalties involved? I'd love to maximize our refund, but our return looks decent already so I don't absolutely need to claim these losses if it's too risky. There's not much clear info online about how the IRS handles these situations in practice.
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Emma Wilson
The IRS does allow you to deduct gambling losses up to the amount of your gambling winnings, but documentation is important here. While keeping the physical losing tickets is a good start, the IRS typically expects more detailed recordkeeping for gambling activities. Ideally, you should have a log or diary that shows the date and type of gambling, the location, who you were with, and amounts won or lost. Since you don't have that level of detail, the physical tickets provide some evidence, but there's definitely a risk in an audit situation. If you're audited and your documentation is deemed insufficient, you'd typically owe the additional tax plus interest. Penalties are possible but less likely if it appears you were making a good-faith effort to comply rather than deliberately misreporting. The odds of an audit are relatively low for most taxpayers, but large deductions that significantly reduce your tax liability can increase that risk. Since you're already itemizing for other reasons, adding the gambling loss deduction might not raise as many red flags as it would if you were itemizing solely for this purpose.
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Malik Thomas
•Thanks for the info. Do you think it would help if I created a log now, after the fact? I could at least document the types of scratch tickets I have and their total value. Also, would bank statements showing ATM withdrawals at or near the lottery retailer help support my case?
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Emma Wilson
•Creating a log now is better than nothing, but it won't be as strong as contemporaneous records. The IRS knows it's easy to create documentation after the fact. However, listing the specific ticket types, prices, and organizing them by approximate time periods would show good faith. Bank statements showing ATM withdrawals near lottery retailers would definitely help corroborate your gambling activity. This is exactly the kind of supporting evidence that strengthens your case. If you used credit/debit cards to purchase some tickets, those statements would be helpful too.
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NeonNebula
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Isabella Costa
•Does taxr.ai actually work with physical scratch-off tickets? I'm curious how it handles the scanning process since lottery tickets aren't exactly standard documents. Also, did you still need to create a gambling log or did the service handle that part too?
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Ravi Malhotra
•I'm skeptical about this. A service can scan tickets but how would it know WHEN you bought them? That seems like the critical piece the IRS would want. Did you have to provide purchase dates yourself or did the service magically figure that out?
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NeonNebula
•The service does work with physical tickets! You just take photos of them using your phone, and their system is pretty good at recognizing different ticket types. I was surprised at how well it handled even the faded ones I had stuffed in my glove box. For the gambling log, the service creates a template that you can fill in with the information you do have. In my case, I didn't have exact dates for all purchases, but I was able to enter approximate time periods and locations where I typically bought tickets. The system then helped organize everything into a format the IRS expects to see.
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Ravi Malhotra
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Freya Christensen
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Omar Farouk
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Chloe Davis
•This sounds like complete BS. I've been trying to reach the IRS for months about an issue with my return and it's impossible. No way some service can magically get through when millions of taxpayers can't. And if they could, why would the IRS prioritize calls from a third-party service?
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Freya Christensen
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Chloe Davis
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AstroAlpha
I'm a regular gambler and itemize deductions every year. Here's what I do: I keep a small notebook in my car and immediately write down when/where I bought tickets, how many, and the total cost. Takes 10 seconds while sitting in my car. For online gambling, I save all the emails. When I win, I do the same thing - record it right away. By tax time, I've got everything organized by month. Been doing this for 7 years and was audited once - passed with no issues because my records were solid. Start doing this now for 2025, even if you decide not to claim the 2024 losses. Better to build the habit.
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Diego Chavez
•Does the IRS actually care if all your gambling was at the same place or different locations? Like if I only buy scratch-offs at the same gas station near my house, do I still need to log each visit separately?
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AstroAlpha
•The IRS cares about accuracy and consistency more than the specific location. If you only gamble at one gas station, that's fine, but you should still log each visit separately with dates and amounts. The key is showing a pattern of gambling activity throughout the year that matches your claimed losses. If you claim $5,000 in losses but only have evidence of visiting the gas station a few times, that's where you'd run into problems. Frequency and consistency matter more than variety of locations.
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Anastasia Smirnova
I went through this exact situation back in 2023. Won $8k on a scratch-off and had a bunch of losing tickets. I claimed about $4k in losses and got audited. It was mostly a mail audit where they asked for documentation. I sent them all my physical tickets plus bank statements showing ATM withdrawals near the stores where I bought tickets. I also created a spreadsheet estimating when I bought each ticket based on the game numbers and when those games were active in my state (you can find this info on most state lottery websites). They accepted about 80% of my claimed losses. They disallowed some because I couldn't reasonably prove they were purchased during the tax year in question. I had to pay a bit more tax, but there were no penalties because they determined I made a good faith effort.
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Javier Cruz
•Thanks for sharing your experience - this is exactly the kind of real-world example I was hoping to find. Did you have to go through the whole audit process alone or did you hire a tax professional to help? And roughly how long did the whole process take from initial audit notice to resolution?
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Anastasia Smirnova
•I handled it myself without a tax professional. The letter from the IRS was pretty straightforward about what they needed, and I just gathered everything and sent it in. For a simple issue like gambling losses, it didn't seem worth paying someone else to handle it. The whole process took about 3 months from getting the initial letter to receiving their decision. Most of that time was just waiting. I spent maybe 6-8 hours total gathering documents, creating my spreadsheet, organizing the tickets, and writing my explanation letter. It wasn't nearly as scary as I thought it would be.
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Zara Ahmed
Based on my experience as a tax preparer, I'd recommend taking a conservative approach here. While you can legally deduct gambling losses up to your winnings, the lack of contemporaneous records does increase your audit risk. Here's what I typically advise clients in your situation: 1. Create a detailed log now, even if after-the-fact. List ticket types, approximate purchase dates/locations, and organize them chronologically as best you can. 2. Gather supporting evidence: bank/credit card statements showing withdrawals or purchases near lottery retailers, any photos you might have of yourself with tickets, etc. 3. Consider the risk vs. reward. If your refund is already decent without claiming these losses, you might want to skip it this year and start keeping proper records going forward. If you do decide to claim them, be prepared to defend the deduction. Keep everything organized and easily accessible. The IRS typically looks for patterns of gambling activity that support your claimed losses. One more thing - make sure you're not double-counting. Only claim losses for which you have actual losing tickets, and don't estimate beyond what you can reasonably document.
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