Writing off gambling losses to offset a winning lottery ticket - tax deduction rules?
I hit it big earlier this year with a $10,000 lottery scratch off win! When I cashed the ticket, they took taxes right off the top and I walked away with about $7,300 in my pocket. Now I've been hearing from some buddies that if I have gambling losses that exceed my winnings, I can somehow write off that entire $10K win and potentially get back the $2,700 I paid in taxes? Is that actually true?? So I've been saving all my losing lottery tickets just in case, but I'm confused about how this actually works. Do I literally need to mail the IRS a shoebox full of losing scratch-offs? And what about money I've dropped at the casino this year? I have zero proof of how much I lost playing blackjack and slots - no receipts or anything. The casino doesn't exactly hand out "sorry you lost $500" vouchers lol. Can someone explain how this gambling loss deduction actually works? And if it's even worth my time to keep collecting these losing tickets?
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Liam Fitzgerald
You've got the general idea right, but there are some important details to understand about gambling losses and tax deductions. The IRS allows you to deduct gambling losses, but only up to the amount of your gambling winnings - and only if you itemize deductions on Schedule A (instead of taking the standard deduction). So you can't get a tax benefit for losses beyond your winnings. Here's how it works: You must report the full $10,000 as income on your tax return. Then, if you itemize deductions, you can list your gambling losses (up to $10,000) on Schedule A. This means if you have $10,000 in documented losses, you could potentially offset the entire gambling income. As for documentation, keep those losing tickets! You don't mail them to the IRS, but you should retain them in case of an audit. For casino losses, try using a player's card which tracks your play, or keep ATM receipts showing withdrawals at the casino, along with a gambling log noting dates, locations, types of gambling, and amounts won/lost. Remember that most taxpayers are better off taking the standard deduction (which is $13,850 for single filers in 2023), so unless your total itemized deductions exceed that amount, itemizing for gambling losses might not benefit you.
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GalacticGuru
•Wait, so I need to itemize to claim gambling losses? I usually just take the standard deduction. Does that mean I'm better off not bothering with all this unless my other deductions plus gambling losses exceed the standard deduction? And do I need receipts for EVERY gambling loss or just a reasonable accounting?
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Liam Fitzgerald
•Yes, you can only deduct gambling losses if you itemize deductions on Schedule A. If your total itemized deductions (mortgage interest, charitable contributions, state/local taxes up to $10,000, medical expenses exceeding 7.5% of AGI, AND gambling losses up to the amount of winnings) don't exceed the standard deduction, then you're better off taking the standard deduction and not bothering with the gambling loss documentation. For documentation, the IRS doesn't expect receipts for every single loss, but you should maintain a log with dates, locations, game types, and amounts. The more documentation you have (losing tickets, ATM withdrawals, casino trip records), the better your position would be if audited. The key is having a "reasonable accounting" that shows your gambling activity throughout the year.
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Amara Nnamani
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Giovanni Mancini
•How does it actually work with the physical tickets though? Do you have to scan each losing ticket or something? I have like hundreds of them and that sounds like a nightmare.
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Fatima Al-Suwaidi
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StarSailor
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StarSailor
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Dmitry Ivanov
Something nobody's mentioned yet - if you do decide to deduct gambling losses, be aware this is considered a common "audit trigger" by the IRS. They scrutinize these deductions pretty carefully. Make sure your documentation is solid. A gambling log with dates, locations, game types, people you were with, amounts won/lost is essential. Keep bank statements showing withdrawals at gambling establishments. For lottery tickets, organize them by date and amount. Also worth noting - you report the full $10,000 winning on line 8b of your 1040 form (Other Income), not as gambling income. Then the losses go on Schedule A as itemized deductions. They don't just "cancel out" before reporting.
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Mei Lin
•Thanks for this info. I'm getting nervous about the potential audit risk. Do you know what percentage of gambling loss deductions actually get audited? I'm wondering if it's even worth the hassle for the potential tax savings.
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Dmitry Ivanov
•The IRS doesn't publish specific audit rates for gambling loss deductions, but tax professionals generally consider them higher-risk. While the overall audit rate is under 1% of returns, certain items like gambling losses can increase your odds. The key factor is whether the potential tax savings justify the effort of documentation and slight increase in audit risk. If you're talking about potentially saving thousands in taxes, many people find it worthwhile to maintain proper documentation. Just make sure your gambling log is detailed and consistent, your losses don't exceed your reported winnings, and you have supporting documentation like those losing tickets. The more organized your records, the less stressful an audit would be if it happened.
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Ava Garcia
Don't forget that different states handle gambling income and losses differently too! Some states don't allow gambling loss deductions at all, while others follow federal rules. For example, I live in New Jersey and they don't allow you to deduct gambling losses on your state return even though you can on your federal return. So I ended up paying state tax on my full gambling winnings with no offset. Check your state's rules before counting on getting back both federal AND state taxes on that lottery win.
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Miguel Silva
•This is such an important point that gets overlooked. I'm in NY and got absolutely killed on state taxes from a poker tournament win because NY doesn't allow the gambling loss deduction. Had to pay state tax on the full amount while federal let me offset with losses. Check your state tax laws!
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Leo McDonald
Just wanted to add a practical tip for organizing all those losing lottery tickets - I use a simple monthly envelope system. Each month I put all my losing tickets in a labeled envelope with the month/year, and I keep a running tally on the outside of total losses for that month. At the end of the year, I add up all the monthly totals to get my total gambling losses. This makes it much easier than trying to sort through hundreds of random tickets later, and if you ever get audited, the IRS will appreciate the organized approach. Also, don't forget to include the cost of tickets that won small amounts too! If you bought a $5 scratch-off and won $2, your net loss is $3 and that counts toward your deductible gambling losses. A lot of people forget to track these smaller net losses, but they can add up over the year. One last thing - start keeping a simple log going forward. Even just notes in your phone with date, location, game type, and amount lost. It takes 30 seconds but makes documentation so much easier than trying to reconstruct everything from tickets alone.
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GalaxyGazer
•This is really helpful advice! I like the envelope system idea - much better than my current method of just throwing all the losing tickets in a shoebox. Quick question though: for the small wins like your $2 example, do I need to keep those winning tickets too as proof of the net loss calculation? Or is just tracking the net loss amount in my log sufficient? I'm trying to figure out how much physical documentation I actually need to keep versus what I can just record in writing.
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